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By Ed Pummelon
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Largejanner wrote:The inference I gleaned from that part of the programme was that he perhaps the thought of being English would make him less windswept and interesting to us and perhaps even to himself.
We all know celebrities have a finely honed sense of their own self image, but possibly being unexpectedly English should`nt have caused him so much angst surely.

Or maybe he's spent his whole life proud of his Irish heritage, and didn't want to find out that it didn't actually exist? Just a thought.

Largejanner wrote:I remember Davd Tennant being on the same show and to his horror finding out his Ulster ancestors were dyed-in-the-wool Orangemen!....cue the producers of the show hunting down a distant cousin who`d married a catholic and had been in the vicinity of the Bloody Sunday massacre for poor "lefty" David to eulogise about!

Apart from the whole programme is researched and mapped out, including having all the relevant people ready and in place, months before the celeb starts filming. They then just get walked through it.

jt78963 wrote:Sorry for being thick, but are you talking about me? Or gerard?

In my post I said "most new members", surely that's pretty self-explanatory? Although "most" is probably an exaggeration, I should have something like "a large proportion of".
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By Yudster
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Largejanner wrote:I remember Davd Tennant being on the same show and to his horror finding out his Ulster ancestors were dyed-in-the-wool Orangemen!....cue the producers of the show hunting down a distant cousin who`d married a catholic and had been in the vicinity of the Bloody Sunday massacre for poor "lefty" David to eulogise about!
If you can`t handle your family`s history, why go on the programme in the first place....oh yes publicity I suppose!

I remember the one with Kevin Whateley, who has always presented himself as a poor lad from the North East - not only did the show reveal that he was a middle class public schoolboy from Surrey, but that his family's fortunes were built on the back of the slave trade. He was so bloody embarrassed, it was priceless.
By jt78963
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Yudster wrote:
Largejanner wrote:I remember Davd Tennant being on the same show and to his horror finding out his Ulster ancestors were dyed-in-the-wool Orangemen!....cue the producers of the show hunting down a distant cousin who`d married a catholic and had been in the vicinity of the Bloody Sunday massacre for poor "lefty" David to eulogise about!
If you can`t handle your family`s history, why go on the programme in the first place....oh yes publicity I suppose!

I remember the one with Kevin Whateley, who has always presented himself as a poor lad from the North East - not only did the show reveal that he was a middle class public schoolboy from Surrey, but that his family's fortunes were built on the back of the slave trade. He was so bloody embarrassed, it was priceless.


I think I saw part of that episode. He said something like he's glad that none of the money made from slavery made it's way to him.
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By Yudster
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Its not that he should be ashamed of it, of course he shouldn't - but that he WAS ashamed of it, so pretended it wasn't relevant.
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By DannyBoy
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I watched the show via sling box so I got to see it as it aired, it was a very deeply moving story, kind of got to see a different side to Chris.

Crowsy wrote:If I said what you did in public about a different Nation I would rightly get labelled predujiced or even worse. And then it seemed it was dissappoinment all round because some relation fought in the British Army and was not a terrorist it seems.


Regarding this complete idiot, I was going to write a massive post about the differences between the IRA and modern day Provisional IRA, but I would just be wasting my time as you appear to be a complete * moron.
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By Mugs
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DannyBoy wrote:I watched the show via sling box so I got to see it as it aired, it was a very deeply moving story, kind of got to see a different side to Chris.

Crowsy wrote:If I said what you did in public about a different Nation I would rightly get labelled predujiced or even worse. And then it seemed it was dissappoinment all round because some relation fought in the British Army and was not a terrorist it seems.


Regarding this complete idiot, I was going to write a massive post about the differences between the IRA and modern day Provisional IRA, but I would just be wasting my time as you appear to be a complete * moron.


Exactly my thought's, it annoys me how many people can't differenciate between the original IRA of the early 20th century and the Murders of the past 30 to 40 years who hi-jacked the Civil rights movment for their own gains. That's why we have Morons like Esther Rantsan making idiotic comments like she did recently.

I loved the show and it's good to see Chris is one of us! :D
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By Johnny 1989
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bradcali wrote:3rd worst audience share in the entire history of the show http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/m ... 59.article seems like people just dont want to give Chris a chance!He'll be gutted about the low audience.He really seemed to think this show could change perceptions of him.It was probably wishful thinking


Considering it was against a brand new Midsomer Murders (of which this is John Nettles last (?)) he did bloody well.

Ah well it's their loss if they didn't watch it.
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By Nicola_Red
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I really enjoyed the show too. My parents run a family history research business so they are avid watchers of the show, and I'm hoping it may have changed their opinion of Moyles a little bit more (the Kilimanjaro doc already softened them up to him a bit!)

The part that I was particularly struck by was his surprise at seeing the paupers' graves his relatives had been buried in. My great-aunt was put into an asylum and disowned by the family after falling and hitting her head and evidently sustaining brain damage, and is buried in an unmarked grave just like the ones Chris saw, in the old grounds of the asylum. Most working class families will have family in graves like those.
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By Kaiser Chef
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nicola_red wrote:I really enjoyed the show too. My parents run a family history research business so they are avid watchers of the show


Nicola, have your parents ever had to trace someones family abroad? I'm intruiged about going back into the Italian side of my family but don't know how hard it would be.
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By Nicola_Red
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Well, most of the work they do is in the North West of England, but one of my great-uncles jumped ship in the Navy and started a new life in the States so they've done some work on finding what happened to him. (We now have copies of some pulp fiction magazines he wrote and illustrated for, thanks to international ebay!) I know that it is more difficult for various reasons, but I'm not the expert. I can ask my dad about it next time I talk to him tho :)
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By DannyBoy
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nicola_red wrote:Well, most of the work they do is in the North West of England, but one of my great-uncles jumped ship in the Navy and started a new life in the States so they've done some work on finding what happened to him. (We now have copies of some pulp fiction magazines he wrote and illustrated for, thanks to international ebay!) I know that it is more difficult for various reasons, but I'm not the expert. I can ask my dad about it next time I talk to him tho :)


Depending on the year your great-uncle entered the USA and also the point of entry he took coming into the states you may find details on http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/
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By MK Chris
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We watched it on the iPlayer last night, although I have nothing to add about the programme that hasn't already been said - it was really interesting and very sad in places and Chris did it very well. It did make both of us think that it would be quite interesting to do our own family histories though - I think most, if not all of mine - as far back as it's possible to go - are English with possibly a little bit of Irish back in the 1800s, but it would be interesting. Cat's is definitely fascinating though, from what I've heard.
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By Yudster
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Cat's got Irish and Spanish in her family, which always makes me think of the Armada settlers in ireland..........very exotic.
By bradcali
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the last man alive who fought in t he trenches of world war one,Harry Patch, died today aged 111. Particularly sad after hearing what Moyles great grandad went through at Ypres http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8168691.stm

(PS I did finally w atch the show,and must admit I cried at the bit where cHRIS found out all his great grans children died youing