[A(THE?)MARK_AND_LARD_FAN]

I think that Chris Moyles is going to Talksport and not the Big Breakfast; my reasons are as follows:<br>1( Recently Moyles has been going over the top and is getting ruder and even more daring(eg. his funny remarks about the USA recently) which although are a joke are much worse than what Ann Robinson got into trouble for about the Welsh; one of these days Moyles will get himself sacked which doesn't seem to matter in radio.<br>2( I reckon he'll replace Ian Collins in the overnight show as Collins will surely move onto something new soon after 6 years(maybe even the Big Breakfast?)<br>3( Ever since Moyles started he's been trying to be a shock-jock,which Talksport thrives on,and I think he secretly wanted a job there.<br>MOYLES TO TALKSPORT CONCLUSION:<br>Ian Collins leaves Talksport for a new challenge,at which point Talksport approach Moyles who has 6m(sic) fans; this means that the ongoing feud between Collins and Moyles is irrelevant,and also Moyles would follow on from the James Whale show - and I've heard Whale is a fan of Moyles.<br>Now with Moyles doing the 1am-5am show he'll be able to swear more(which should please him),cut-off and be (even) ruder to callers,and also not have to bother with letting boring little stuff like music get in the way of his mouth; so what I think is that as Moyles is trying to be even more of a shock-jock he may end up being sacked or may have to leave,which doesn't seem to matter(in fact it would be a bonus for Talksport).<br>

[Tom_Murphy]

i think if he was going to be sacked it would have happened a LONG time ago. They must realise they'd be stupid to sack one of the last good DJs left there.<P>basically i reckon with moyles it's all about money. if talksport offer enough, then you could well be right.

[Simon]

Moyles isn't all about money. Virgin offered him mega bucks to work there but he didn't go.

[Tom_Murphy]

well if he really does care about his fan base then it is unlikely he'd do the 1am - 5am show. What do you reckon simon?

[Simon]

Moyles won't go to talkSPORT because he probably doesn't want to and Ian Collins won't leave anyway. The only way Moyles would leave R1 (i think) is if he gets sacked, which won't happen cos he is the saviour and Parfitt and his gang of managers know that nobody else could attract 6 million listeners at 4 in the afternoon (apart from possibly Mark and Lard). Also, R1 need to keep Moyles for when Coxy (her with the annoying voice) gets sacked from breakfast.<br>PS any1 know how badly that breakfast show is doing in the ratings?

[Tom_Murphy]

nice to see you've registered simon!<P>the subject of radio ratings came up in a thread ages ago, but i'm not sure anyone knew where to find them. i would definitely be interested if anyone knows - i'm looking at you eddie!

[the_dr]

M&L fan:<br>1) Moyles, as he said himself, is not to be taken seriously - especially when he is taking the ****  of the Americans. He won't be sacked for it, infact he won't even get any official complaints (he's only had 1 in his carrer), because people know he's just messing around - and if they don't like his 'shock jock' style, they will switch off. This is unlikely to lose his audience or his job, as other people have said - Parff Daddy can't afford to lose him.<P>2) Why would he want to move to a crap station like Talksport? Aren't you supposed to leave your job for something better - and let's face it, Moyles has a free pick of nearly any job he wants in the media now. Moyles is still relitavely young (27) and he won't want to move to a station seen as out of his demographic before his time. And why would he want such a crap time slot when he has one of the peak times (drivetime) at the Happy Happy sound of Radio 1? He has said in many interviews that he doesn't like getting up in the middle of the night and going to bed early to do a radio show - it's a pain in the arse.<P>3) He's not a shock-jock if thats what you want to call him, he's just a funny bloke. Yes, he cuts off callers and calls them dogs and mingers, but thats just his style.<P>I've never listened to talkSPORT, but from the title I'm guessing it's a sports station - one thing, Moyles isn't mad on sport. Yes, he supports Leeds and does 1 football feature, but he's said himself many times that he's not an expert on sport. <P>Moyles likes the money, but I don't think he'll be moving to another radio station for a good while. I think he will try to break into TV because, like he says himself, thats where the money is. I don't think he'll take the Big Brekkie gig - it's his style but 1) He doesn't get enough control/chance to talk and 2) He doesn't want to wake up really early.<P>I think Moyles should take over This Morning  :) It would be quite funny I think.<P>Thanks,<br>the_dr

[Uglybob]

moyles will stay at the bbc and they might give him a digital show, and if that takes off, a light entertainment show on bbc2. thats where his future lies. also a full time gig on top of the pops in the near future. mystic uglybob casts my views. talksport,talkrubbish more like. big breakfast, i give it three months and it will be axed. get bacon back on the bbc, hilariously amateur.

[the_dr]

A-HA!!<br>Did you know that the Big Breakfast are doing a feature at the moment called "Do you like Richard?", and then the following day "Why don't you like Richard?". The Big Breakfast can be saved, just put Bacon on his own for 2 hours - comedy genius.<P>My music teacher (Mr Garlick) is so identical to Alan Partridge/Richard Bacon - it's scary. Give him a mullet and he looks like Pat Sharp. His favourite phrases are "Top Banana", "Garlick xxx" (where xxx is "Game", "Quiz", "Pencil", "Keyboard", "Table" or just about any other object). He answers the phone by saying "It's the man". He drives an MG because of the initials (M.G. = Mark Garlick). He has an 18 year old ex pupil for a girlfriend. He has huge nostrils. He makes absolutely pathetic jokes (I would name an example but they're just too bad). I have his lesson 1st thing on a Monday  <IMG SRC="http://chrismoyles.net/ubb/frown.gif"> He likes to get me to read out things and answer questions. He calls me "Danny". Hes a ******. I can do a very good impression of him<P>the_dr

[the_dr]

Oh, and 1 thing that I forgot - he puts a (C) 2001 Mark Garlick on every sheet of music (which he hasn't written). That pisses me off. Pagaini? (c) M. Garlick. Bethoven? (c) M. Garlick.<P>the_dr

[A(THE?)MARK_AND_LARD_FAN]

TO THE_DR,<br>1( How do you know Talksport is crap if you've never listened to it?<br>2( Why if it's so crap has Moyles copied Ian Collins and the Creatures of the Night for the best part of 5 years?<br>3( I agree he's not a shock-jock,but the point I'm making is he desperately wants to be.<br>4( To Simon...The reason Moyles' audience figures are so high IS because he has the peaktime slot,when all the kiddies coming back from school are sniggering at his double entendres and innuendo.<P>

[Guest]

M&L fan:<P>I object to point no 4.  Just 'cos some of Moylesy listeners are still in school doesn't mean the only reason we listen to him is 'cos he burps on radio, etc.  I'm sure the_dr, Ben, Gordon and various other Moyles fans in school agree with me.  I'm not having a go but your point has no real backup as this is not true and I'm annoyed that every1 seems to think this.<P>Another thing, why are you on a Moyles fan website when you obviously don't like him?  The radio 1 website I can understand but this is for Moyles fans.<P>This sounds like a serious rant but no offence intended, I just want to get my point across.<P>Luv Hells Angel, die-hard Moyles fan!<br>xxx  

[the_dr]

Ditto what Hells Angel said.<P>And whats the big deal about "kiddies" listening to Moyles? Just because we're not as old as you - it doesn't mean our opinions are worthless. If we want to listen to Moyles or Radio 4, it's our choice - just as you have your right to choose. No matter the age of the listener, if they are listening to Moyles (and they are one of the chosen ratings listeners), it counts as one more listener to Moyles.<P>Us "kiddies" are infact in Radio 1's target audience - something Parff Daddy will bear in mind when reviewing Mark & Lards contract. M&L seem out of place on the station, on daytime at least. They are there for two reasons: to entertain and to play their middle of the road indie music. We have Moyles and Lamaq to do that - and Lamaq has a lot more cred/taste than them as well. A joke that Moyles made the other day seems relevant, "Whats the difference between The Dreem Team and M&L? After they play a track on the playlist - they both say "Booo", but for different reasons. They are out of touch, and would be more comfortable at Radio 2.<P>I listen to Moyles because he is funny. End of story. The fact that he burps on air, makes inuendos, attributes to the "lad" culture or the fact that I'm in school has nothing to do with it. He's a funny bloke. <P>Oh, and wheres your proof that he has copied these 'DJs'. A lot of what Moyles does is what you might call 'Observational' a style that has been used by many DJs and comedians, so he isn't copying. If it's the 'shock-jock' cutting off callers style, Moyles wasn't the first or last person to attempt this styl and neither was Ian Collins.<P>Oh, and next time you patronise 'kiddies', try to back it up with at least a half decent argument.<P>Thanks,<br>the_dr

[Guest]

Hurray!  Thanx the_dr!

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

Excuse me im not at school an i dont think i know how to snigger can i have a stereotype please?

[Chris]

Mark & Lards audience is different due to the time they appear at - it's bored housewifes mostly.

[Tom_Murphy]

why doesn't the m+l fan just ****  off?

[A(THE?)MARK_AND_LARD_FAN]

I would like to make a few points to all you people getting hot under the collar about some passing remarks I made.<br>1( I'm not particulary old at all,it's just that a large portion of Moyles fans are kids who DO like it because of the sexual references he makes.2( Kiddies arn't the target audience...Target audience is 16-24 and I'm referring to under 16s...The sort of humour in the Moyles show is what I would have found funny about 6 years ago; in fact I still found it funny about 1 year ago.<br>3( It's obvious(Allegedly) that Moyles rips off Collins and his show(everything from the sound-effects to the format)..although it seems to me that a lot of people on this forum havn't listened to Ian Collins(so how can you hold an opinion?).<br>3( Why if Moyles is so much better than Mark and Lard is he so quiet and in awe everytime he talks to them??<br>4( Why do you people take my remarks personally??<br>5( I know this is a Moyles fansite,but what's wrong with hearing both sides of the spectrum??(Deliberate ironic triple mixed metaphor,there)<br>6( All I'm doing is making serious points for people to debate(eg.Lizzie is the worst person on radio), if you don't like it DON'T REPLY!!<br>7( I am not being patronising at all. In no way would I ever consider myself any different to anyone else.<br>8( At least I don't use obscenities(eg. Someone saying I should **** off) That is a huge sign of weakness; swearing to get a point across.<br>9( And finally and most importantly...I'm entitled to my opinion the same way as you're entitled to yours.<br>Thank You<br>

[Cov_are_staying_up!!!!!]

TO THE M&LFAN:<br>Here is a fact for you:<br>I've listened to Ian Collins and there is no way he plays sound effects.What about the feature he's got on the first couple of minutes on his show?Bruce's fifty pound bonus and all he does is take a couple of calls unscreened and the best call win's fifty pounds.Has Moyles ever had that on his show,no he hasn't.<br>The Show you're getting mixed up on is the James Whale Show,he plays Sound effects.<br>Get your facts right m&l fan

[Tom_Murphy]

sign of weakness? really? oh dear me.<P>****  off you gimp.<P>the point is your points are weak i.e. i would never have said he is "in awe" of m+l. it has been said that the two sets of DJs don't get along at all (especially recently) so maybe they are just being quiet.<P>also your point about lizzie is ridiculous coz she never intended to actually be heard - her job is in the running of the show (picking callers etc.) so i don't understand how you can criticise her radio ability. it's like saying the m+l producer should be sacked because you rarely hear him. <P>i also don't understand how you say he's not funny. the point of his show is IRONY. he is taking a stab at the DJ stereotype. and i very much doubt he writes his shows with 16 year olds in mind.

[Simon]

I'm sorry i have to disagree. Whenever Mark Radcliffe talks to Moyles, he (radcliffe) shows that he is a far superior talent to Moyles. I'm not saying moyles isnt any good im just saying that m+l are better.<br>Bored housewives listen to mark and lard? i think u will find its much more the student type lad who listens to them (something im sure Parf daddy took into account when he recently renewed their radio 1 contracts).<br>

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

excuse me mark an lard fan but i would like to point out the contradiction between points 5 and 6:<P>"5( I know this is a Moyles fansite,but what's wrong with hearing both sides of the spectrum??(Deliberate ironic triple mixed metaphor,there)<br>6( All I'm doing is making serious points for people to debate(eg.Lizzie is the worst person on radio), if you don't like it DON'T REPLY!!"<br> <br>I would appreciate no futher confusing statements cos im already confuddled enough<P>Thankyou<P>

[Guest]

I'm not gonna get into another arguement about whos better - Moyles or M&L.  I'll just say the few occasions I've listened to M&L I've found them quite funny but I've never gone out of my way to listen.  Take from that what you will.<P>M&L fan, your points:-<P>1 & 2)  I think your find that there are not that many "kids" that listen to Moyles.  I'm one of the very few in my school and in my year (10) I don't know of anyone else.  Also, if you ask I think you'll find that most people on this message board are in the age of r1's target audience or near it.<P>3)Your right, I've never heard of Ian Collins, but how can you be so sure that Moylesy's ripping off him and not the other way round?<P>4)Why make remarks like yours to people who are probably Moylesy' biggest fans and then say we take them personally?  Isn't that the whole point?<P>5)I used to be a member of the radio1 message board so I could talk to people about Moylesy.  After a while I got bored of the same arguement ("Moylesy's the best" "no he's crap") so I decided to find a fan site so I could talk to fans without interuptions.  I know that your entilited to your opinion but this isn't exactly the best place to express it.<P>6)You make comments about Moyles on a fan site and then tell people who don't agree with you not to reply?  Aren't you contradicting yourself a little bit?<P>7)I don't think your are being patronising but you have chose a bad place to express your views (see 5&6).<P>8)Tom - stop being so * weak! <IMG SRC="http://chrismoyles.net/ubb/wink.gif"><P>9)See 5,6&7.  There are places to have an arguement like this ie: the R1 message board.  We are here as fans to talk about Moyles (allegerdly  - but lets not start that again) not to argue with people who have a different opinion.<P>Love from an under 16 who couldnt really care less about sexual references.<br>xxx    

[Guess]

The word * doesn't get censored - how very cool.

[the_dr]

I agree with the points raised by Tom, but I would like to add that Moyles is to be taken light heartedly. Interpret him how you like - ironically, literally, light heartedly - and as always, if you don't like him - don't listen.<P>Tom, I think M&L fan was using "Lizzie is the worst person on radio" as an example of an argument. I don't actually think this is his viewpoint, or is it?<P>Oh, and M&L fan: not using obsenities isn't a sign of superiority, you ****.<P>Simon: I think the bored housewife comment was a joke. Both M&L and Moyles have a high student audience, infact so does the whole of Radio 1. You just have to listen to the callers they put through - most are 18-30. Whether they pick the callers because of this, I don't know. Would be interesting to see the stats for Radio 1's listening figures.<P>I found this article on my travels, looks like Radcliffe will be absent from his radio show for a while if he's doing this. I bet the dreem team will take over his slot again, but I'd like to hear Westwood doing it - now that *would* be funny.  :) <P>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_1287000/1287645.stm<P>T<br>hanks,<br>the_dr