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By rustybike
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Andy B wrote:Where do you stand on Terry Prachett and his publicising for Altzheimers (sp?)? Is it any famous person or the Jade Goodies of this world (Jordan, Paris Hilton, Russel Brand)?


Sadly, I'm not really sure what you mean by Terry Prachett and his publicising for Altzheimers, but generally I just hate it when the news go on about something and act as if it's the saddest thing in the world when something terrible is happening to a famous person, when really; as Yuds has given an example of, terrible things, like this, happen all the time to us "normal people" but of course that doesn't get mentioned.
Besides, Jade Goody is probably just as guilty for all this - I think if I was in this situation I think I'd want to be left the hell alone, I certainly wouldn't want to still be in the limelight.

To be honest, I'm really not understanding why she's getting all of this publicity? It's like people are now feeling guilty for taking the piss out of her for all these years.

It's also disgusted me when her hubby got special treatment from his prison realease curfew schedule just because of who he is and who he's marrying! He broke the law, tough luck.
It was just the other day a colleague of mine had to pass a message on to a guy who's currently in prison that he can only see his dying brother in hospital to say "goodbye" OR at his funeral. Not both. It sickens me when certain people get special treatement from us "normo's".
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By jocky85
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I do have to agree I'm afraid with the above. Obivously she doesnt deserve what shes going through, no-one does really. But I don't need to hear about it as a top headline in news bulletins everyday. A prime example is the late Wendy Richard. Yes it made the headlines when she was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but then you didn't really hear anything until she sadly passed away. Why is Jade Goodey any different? Apart from being very young.

She now lives near where I used to and apparently they're doing a walk for her releasing balloons and raising money which will go straight to her sons - I can understand that she wants to make sure her sons future is secure and she didn't organise this (well as far as I know none of her 'team' know of it) but that's taking things a little too far for my liking. Sure do the walk if thats what you want to do - but why not donate the money to cancer research or similar?
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By Yudster
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Also - theres a difference between her sons' futures being secure, and her sons' futures being settled as incredibly wealthy individuals. What on earth does she think "normos" do in a situation like hers to secure their childrens' futures? It certainly doesn't take million pound deals on coverage of weddings and christenings (and don't get me started on THAT little farce) to ensure that your kids are going to be ok. They have a perfectly able and relatively high earning father who I imagine is more than able to take care of them (as long as he keeps them away from Jack Tweed's influence), so how all this publicity can be genuinely to provide for their financial security, which is already provided for, is beyond me.

And I know that this isn't going to happen, I'm not suggesting anyone would stoop this low, not even Jade Goodey - but there is a tiny little bit of me that would be totally unsurprised if, in a couple of weeks, there was a "miracle cure".........but like I said, I know that's not going to happen. Such bad thoughts probably say a lot about me I guess.
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By MK Chris
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superjake wrote:
Topher wrote:I don't think anybody deserves to die.

Although I certainly don't think Jade Goodey deserves to die, I think that people who cause other people to die deserve the same themselves. Serial killers, mad dictators, terrorists and all those sorts of people do deserve to die in my mind - even though it is such a severe punishment.

At the risk of starting the whole capital punishment debate, I couldn't disagree more.
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By TIAL
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charlalottie wrote:I'm fed up of hearing dead people on the news. Or dying people. Or the famous relatives of someone who has died.


I was talking with someone about this the other day. Celebrity deaths in the news are only going to get more and more frequent - as there are a great deal more people in the public eye than there was in recent history.
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By superjake
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Topher wrote:
superjake wrote:
Topher wrote:I don't think anybody deserves to die.

Although I certainly don't think Jade Goodey deserves to die, I think that people who cause other people to die deserve the same themselves. Serial killers, mad dictators, terrorists and all those sorts of people do deserve to die in my mind - even though it is such a severe punishment.

At the risk of starting the whole capital punishment debate, I couldn't disagree more.

I don't think it should be put as a punishment, seeing as some innocent people may be victims and some people may change - but theres some people I will never have sympathy for.
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By MK Chris
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But that's what it is - punishment - the term is 'capital punishment'. I can't see any other reason you would do it other than punishment; it's not a well-known method of rehabilitation.
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By chrysostom
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rustybike wrote:It really does sicken me, especially when Gordon Brown even had his bit to say about it - he probably didn't even know who she was before all this!


There was that business of india vs goody that he was asked about :p

I'm not sure where this thread is right now, but after spending her life whoring herself to the media - she's spending her death doing the same thing. Is it right that she can use her impending death to openly prise as much money from anyone who will give it to her.

Most people work in order to earn money and pass it onto their children - so why should she be allowed to use this as an excuse for throwing together a wedding, and selling every single detail of her physical demise?

The situation is sad, a young mother lost to cancer, however her resume and eventual obituary will still read 'former reality tv star'.

Dying with dignity is certainly out of the question here, when other celebrities have died of cancer - do they show everything to the press?

Has patrick swayze done this in america? (just a point of interest?)
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By TIAL
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I just find it amazing how the media have changed from vilifying her a year or two ago to canonising her today.
It's exactly what happened to Princess Diana.
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By MK Chris
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chrysostom wrote:her resume and eventual obituary will still read 'former reality tv star'.

If she's lucky it will use the word 'star', but then it will be inaccurate.
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By Yudster
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Dominic Byrne at every news bulletin this morning said, not wrote:And the biggest news story today - Jade Goodey is to have emergency surgery.

WHAT???!!! Ok, she is a "celeb", maybe it should get a mention somewhere during the longer Newsbeat bulletins, but to make it the first item on every bulletin on the biggest show on Radio 1 is ludicrous. Even if there is nothing else happening in the world worth talking about ot doesn;'t warrant that - ffs, Moyles on the Mountain is a bigger story than that, at least he and the others are raising money for something other than their own uses.
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By Munki Bhoy
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TIAL wrote:I just find it amazing how the media have changed from vilifying her a year or two ago to canonising her today.
It's exactly what happened to Princess Diana.


Unless she was giving them an interview as she did frequently. The people's princess... not my people.
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By Johnny 1989
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TIAL wrote:I just find it amazing how the media have changed from vilifying her a year or two ago to canonising her today.
It's exactly what happened to Princess Diana.


Exactly what annoys me about all this, the media both slated the pair of them, no end, back in the day, yet when they were dying/died they talked about them being the greatest peopel in the world, etc., etc.

The Mirror is the most guilty regarding Jade, I seem to remember them slatign the crap out of Jade after the whole CBB incident, yet now they talk about "how brave Jade is", etc.

The press make me feel sick 99% of the time :x
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By Boboff
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I am not bothered either way. Is she not dead already.

Although I do think she is being paid by the Labour Party to drag out a long death to fill column inches so they don't write about how shite our wee Jock PM is, and how he's completely * the economy, and the future of this country for 25 years to come. Major tried it with the whole Princess Di thing, but we saw through that one in the end, and voted in * Tony Blair! Still at Cameron should have his mind more on the job now, less work to do at home.

*Boboff Sarcasm*
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By superjake
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When is she actually expected to die? Some people say months, some say weeks and some people say they're surprised she's not dead already.
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By Yudster
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Give Max Clifford's secretary a call, its bound to be pencilled in his diary.
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By Munki Bhoy
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Must admit, I'm still feeling sorry for Jade but at least she seems to be getting things in order pretty quickly. Max Clifford on the other hand is getting somewhat tedious. I can't prove it and it's just a gut instinct, but I get the feeling he's milking this for all it's worth. He gets publicity from this too after all. How noble the man who does his best to help the poor unfortunate Jade Goody through her final months of her terribly short life.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. Max Clifford was an odious little toad before this and he will be after it too. The fact he's going to get more business out of all of this makes me a little sick.
By bradcali
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apparantely some of Jades fans have started a campaign to get a statue of her erected in Trafalgar Square or Piccadilly Circus when she dies.Any of you think thats a goer?
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By Bonanzoid
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No. I do respect her a bit for being able to make a mountain out of a molehill as far as 'celebrity' careers go, asking for a statue of her is absolutely ridiculous. The fact these 'fans' think otherwise makes me lose faith in humanity.
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By Andy B
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I think we should get rid of that bugger on the column in Trafalgar Square. He's been up there for ages. Jade would be a marvelous addition. We could re-name it Big Brother Square.
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By S4B
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bradcali wrote:apparantely some of Jades fans have started a campaign to get a statue of her erected in Trafalgar Square or Piccadilly Circus when she dies.Any of you think thats a goer?


Oh for god's sake! Sometimes I lose faith in humankind! Who are these people?
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By Yudster
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Any faith in humankind is ultimately misplaced.
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By MK Chris
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It would never happen anyway, not in a million years.
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By Johnny 1989
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I'm not meaning to sound nasty but I'm getting a bit fed up with this, I have sympathy for the girl but do I need to know every single minute detail about Jade's final four weeks (according to today's Metro). Considerign what happened in Sri Lanka yesterday what's the betting the Scum & Star still have a story about Jade on the front.

Three people I know have suffered with relatives or friends diagnosed with cancer (I didn't mention one further up thread), two have died (one was my friends Mum, which I didn't know but two years later he still finds it a bit of a struggle some days as he was rather close with his mum). I imagine people who are suffering with cancer or have lost someone to cancer are probably finding it a bit difficult with this being shoved in their faces everyday.
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