[bradcali]

how do you all feel ábout this? I must admit i had tears in my eyes when i found out she was going to die

[Dangerous_Beans]

I've never liked Jade, I might even go so far as to say I hate her, but I certainly wouldn't wish this upon anyone.

[Andy B]

A somewhat misleading title and it should be in Ramble but someone will sort that out later.

As for Ms Goody it is sad and a shame to think how young she is. I guess she, at least, can make a shed load of money to leave to her kids which is more than most can.

[Yudster]

how do you all feel ábout this? I must admit i had tears in my eyes when i found out she was going to die

I don't know the woman beyond what she has chosen to show the world of herself. I know four or five people with cancer at the moment, one of them is on borrowed time as we speak and the others, well, who knows. Nobody deserves cancer, but please don't ask me to pretend I suddenly care about that awful self publicisong Famous For Being Stupid woman just because she is going to die from it. So are lots of people, many of them people I actually care about.

Of course I feel sorry for her kids, but to be honest, I felt sorry for them anyway even before she was diagnosed.

[MK Chris]

I agreed with Yudster 100% the first time she posted her opinion on this, so not surprisingly, I agree with her again.

[foot-loose]

I am oddly split on Jade. She symbolises everything that I detest about the celebrity media culture that we live in. On the other hand, it isn't really her fault, she has managed to make a fortune out of it and I would quite probably have done the same in her boots. She may well be stupid, but she is clever enough to surround herself with clever people who make her money.

My feelings on her cancer? I am still expecting someone to tell me its a publicity stunt, although when I heard it was terminal, I figured not even Max Clifford would go that far (although, I wouldn't put it past him). There are thousands, if not millions of people in the world suffering with cancer, to say that I don't care about hers is a tad heartless although whither she is around or not will make little difference to my life.

I do think that what has happened to her, and the way it has happened to her so publicly will at least increase the awareness of the subject. Apparently there are lots of wummin off to get smear tested - i've no real idea what that means since I don't have a smear, but it seems its important.

[Yudster]

I could turn you into a smear.

[foot-loose]

I could turn you into a smear.

Your feminine chat up lines hold no power with me, she-witch!!

[Munki Bhoy]

If Jade's plight helps prevent a few other women from dying, then at least some good will come of this.

I said it a couple of weeks ago, no one deserves this, no matter what I may think of them. I mean, she's a plank who's famous for nothing. But as foots points out, it's hardly her fault the society we live in has made her famous for nothing.

She's pretty much the same age as me. That's kinda scary actually. I mean, I've recently lost my nana to the bastard that is cancer but at least she was in her 70s. She'd lived her life, and while it's sad to end it that way it's not like she didn't have time before it. Most people complain about reaching the age of 30. If the doctors are right, Jade won't made that. But still, if she can make as much money as possible for her kids, and even get her wedding that she wants, she'll at least have made something of the short time she's had. I mean, we all want the best for our offspring, and while I can't imagine growing up without your mum can be much fun they're not going to want for much else, are they?

I guess the simplest way for me to put it would be this. I would be quite happy if I never heard from Jade Goody again. But as far as methods to reach that goal go, this is quite possibly at the very bottom of that list.

[MK Chris]

It should also be noted that doctors can and do get things like this wrong... I may have mentioned this before and alright it probably doesn't happen very often, but I know of at least one person who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over nine years ago and is alive and well now.

[Munki Bhoy]

It also works both ways. We were expecting a couple more months of my nana from what the doctors told us. We got a couple more weeks.

Cancer is as sneaky as it is evil.

[foot-loose]

It should also be noted that doctors can and do get things like this wrong... I may have mentioned this before and alright it probably doesn't happen very often, but I know of at least one person who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over nine years ago and is alive and well now.

I am under the impression that doctors will very rarely diagnose a terminal case these days unless they are 100% sure they are right. This was cos of a guy in a similar situation to the fellow you mention who sued the health service because he said they screwed his life up.

No mention of the fact that they quite probably saved his life, he sued them.

[Johnny 1989]

I'll be honest I'm not a fan of her, she represents everything I dislike about current "celeb culture" and is one of those heat/closer/otherobscureweeklycelebritycrap "stars".

However this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone, especially at such a young age & I do feel sorry for the kids who are going to be without their mother in the near future.

One thing that did annoy me however, related to this, was that some people said she deserved her cancer at the start for what she said to Shilpa Shetty People like that really annoy me, stupid f***wits

[Console]

Cancer is as sneaky as it is evil.

Well, that's true enough.

[Munki Bhoy]

One thing that did annoy me however, related to this, was that some people said she deserved her cancer at the start for what she said to Shilpa Shetty People like that really annoy me, stupid f***wits

You know what they folk deserve, don't you?!








A punch in the face.

[Johnny 1989]

One thing that did annoy me however, related to this, was that some people said she deserved her cancer at the start for what she said to Shilpa Shetty People like that really annoy me, stupid f***wits

You know what they folk deserve, don't you?!








A punch in the face.

Absolutely, I'm not a fan of her at all (as I said above) but Cancer is a horrible thing that no one deserves to get, no matter how much you dislike that person.

Two friends of mine have had loved ones in their lives diagnosed with cancer. One, whose mother was diagnosed with cancer had treatment & thankfully pull through & is safe and well, the other friend sadly lost his friend to cancer, he was roughly the same age as Jade was.

Cancer is a horrible disease & hopefully one day it will be eradicated altogether.

[foot-loose]

One thing that did annoy me however, related to this, was that some people said she deserved her cancer at the start for what she said to Shilpa Shetty People like that really annoy me, stupid f***wits

What did she actually say back then? I don't think I ever heard it?

Ive also heard that it wasn't as bad as the witchhunt would lead you to believe, and that it might just have been the papers creating a news story? Now, not having heard the obscenity she uttered, I couldn't possibly comment on the fact the papers might have blown it out of proportion which, in turn, would lead to a nation of paper-readers to believe what was written (again) and end up hating the woman?

As I say - I haven't heard what she said... I couldn't possibly comment.

[Munki Bhoy]

Oddly, any footage I can find of the incidents are blocked in this country! Weird...

However, wikipedia does have a bit on it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_ ... ontroversy

Having read it, I have to say that it looks to me like Jade has been tarred with a brush that should have been aimed elsewhere. Sure, she's not exactly faultless but the little blonde footballer-grabbing bimbo seems to be the biggest culprit! Better still, Jade was the only one to apologise of the three that got the racism/bullying accusations and has done more to try and mend things than anyone else. Although given she's the one that's been hit hardest by this, I'm not surprised.

Why have the other two got off so lightly? Is it because Jo is a nutjob who went paranoid after appearing on the show? Did Danielle get away with it because she's young (apparently Shilpa Shetty herself said as much!)

I did find one bit of footage from another part of the show where there was some argument over chicken stock cubes. After ten minutes of watching that I couldn't help but think Shilpa Shetty was a pain in the arse.

[Johnny 1989]

Oddly, any footage I can find of the incidents are blocked in this country! Weird...

However, wikipedia does have a bit on it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_ ... ontroversy

Having read it, I have to say that it looks to me like Jade has been tarred with a brush that should have been aimed elsewhere. Sure, she's not exactly faultless but the little blonde footballer-grabbing bimbo seems to be the biggest culprit! Better still, Jade was the only one to apologise of the three that got the racism/bullying accusations and has done more to try and mend things than anyone else. Although given she's the one that's been hit hardest by this, I'm not surprised.

Why have the other two got off so lightly? Is it because Jo is a nutjob who went paranoid after appearing on the show? Did Danielle get away with it because she's young (apparently Shilpa Shetty herself said as much!)

I did find one bit of footage from another part of the show where there was some argument over chicken stock cubes. After ten minutes of watching that I couldn't help but think Shilpa Shetty was a pain in the arse.

Jo just buggered off back into obscurity, she lives in Romford which is a rough area & certain people I know who live there or near there are prejudice so... As for Danielle Lloyd, well she's dated loads of black footballers since CBB so she can't be racist at all, no no no. Plus guys probably enjoy having a "gentlemen's wrist adventure" so she's got let off the hook. Neither have apologised yet Jade has & still gets all the stick for it.

[Boboff]

Still I heard Jade had some good news today.

She got a tenner for her hair dryer off of e-bay!

[Yudster]

Absolutely, I'm not a fan of her at all (as I said above) but Cancer is a horrible thing that no one deserves to get, no matter how much you dislike that person.

I don't think any right minded person could disagree with that. But I do find it odd that when someone who is disliked gets cancer, people suddenly stop disliking them and pretend that they care. And when someone like Jade Goodey, who we have only heard of because of the ludicrous culture of pointless celebrity we have developed, gets cancer, people who didn't give a toss about her when she was well and screeching make a massive fuss about her.

People I know and love are suffering from and in at least two cases dying from cancer right now, and my dad died horribly painfully from it four years ago. I care deeply about them. I don't know Jade Goodey, I'm sure she has plenty of friends and family who love her and care just as deeply about her as I do for my friends and family. But I don't know her, and I can't pretend that her death among those of thousands of other total strangers that will occur on the same day means anything more to me than they do. And of course that isn't nothing, but it just isn't relevant, or helpful.

And I love you Boboff.

[Nicola_Red]

Very much agreed Yudster. I think most people know someone who has had cancer if not died as a result by now. But I do find the same happens with anyone who dies - people are quite happy to suddenly forget any controversy, faults or wrongdoing in favour of remembering what a great person the deceased was. James Brown is a good example - when he died people were keen to forget his history of assault and imprisonment.

[Andy B]

Although I somewhat doubt that should Gary Glitter suddenly pass away we'll forgive those indiscretions.

[MK Chris]

This really annoys me (as nicola_red knows). If someone is an 'orrible * (to use the words of Brick Top in Snatch), why on earth should you feel sympathy for them? I'm not for a moment suggesting Jade Goody is a horrible person - she may or may not be - I'm not speaking about anyone in particular; but if someone really is horrible, why should you feel sorry? I understand that no even partially-decent person would wish something as horrible as cancer on anyone - but if someone like Gary Glitter, to use Andy B's example, were to suddenly get cancer, he'd get no sympathy for me. There's a difference between not feeling sympathy and actually wishing something on someone. To draw on a personal example that I've spoken to some on this board about, I can truly and honestly say that I hate my sister's ex-partner (and Joel's dad). He's the only person I've ever hated and it's not a particularly nice feeling. I can't, however, bring myself to hope that he gets cancer.

As an aside, I know an ex Detective Sergeant who used to get tons of abuse, as I suppose is to be expected in that job. He says the worst one was a woman telling him "I hope your mum dies of cancer". I can't comprehend that kind of scum.

[Johnny 1989]

Absolutely, I'm not a fan of her at all (as I said above) but Cancer is a horrible thing that no one deserves to get, no matter how much you dislike that person.

I don't think any right minded person could disagree with that. But I do find it odd that when someone who is disliked gets cancer, people suddenly stop disliking them and pretend that they care. And when someone like Jade Goodey, who we have only heard of because of the ludicrous culture of pointless celebrity we have developed, gets cancer, people who didn't give a toss about her when she was well and screeching make a massive fuss about her.

People I know and love are suffering from and in at least two cases dying from cancer right now, and my dad died horribly painfully from it four years ago. I care deeply about them. I don't know Jade Goodey, I'm sure she has plenty of friends and family who love her and care just as deeply about her as I do for my friends and family. But I don't know her, and I can't pretend that her death among those of thousands of other total strangers that will occur on the same day means anything more to me than they do. And of course that isn't nothing, but it just isn't relevant, or helpful.

And I love you Boboff.

I do agree with you, I still dislike her but do still feel sorry for her, especially the poor kids. The media annoy me more than anything, I can remember at least the Mirror slating the sh*te out of her over the whole Shilpa Shetty scenario & yet now they're all "Jade is so Great", etc. because she is now ill. That I find very hypocritical.

This really annoys me (as nicola_red knows). If someone is an 'orrible * (to use the words of Brick Top in Snatch), why on earth should you feel sympathy for them? I'm not for a moment suggesting Jade Goody is a horrible person - she may or may not be - I'm not speaking about anyone in particular; but if someone really is horrible, why should you feel sorry? I understand that no even partially-decent person would wish something as horrible as cancer on anyone - but if someone like Gary Glitter, to use Andy B's example, were to suddenly get cancer, he'd get no sympathy for me. There's a difference between not feeling sympathy and actually wishing something on someone. To draw on a personal example that I've spoken to some on this board about, I can truly and honestly say that I hate my sister's ex-partner (and Joel's dad). He's the only person I've ever hated and it's not a particularly nice feeling. I can't, however, bring myself to hope that he gets cancer.

As an aside, I know an ex Detective Sergeant who used to get tons of abuse, as I suppose is to be expected in that job. He says the worst one was a woman telling him "I hope your mum dies of cancer". I can't comprehend that kind of scum.

I agree with your sentiments her Topher, I never would wish it on someone but if it was someone like Glitter I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them at all.