[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

haha people who take anything off here seriously need to really grow up.

[Eddie]

I also need to learn stuff like using Flash and Photoshop to full effect, I don't claim to be professional by any means, I am still learning all this stuff. So yes, the tinkering isn't much.

I am sure the HTMl stuff you've done is fine. It's just the actual design and layout and use of fonts that looks really bad, again, sorry. But there's no point in having a knowledge of HTML or FLASH or anyother website authoring tool if you don't know what looks good (Or at least 'ok') design wise. There's a very good website called http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ that's really good for pointing out bad design and useability for websites. I am by no means an expert on writing or designing anything, let alone websites (Although i do do it) but I do have eyes and they are hurting lookig at your site.

Wow, I AM in a bad mood today. Don't know why. It's a bank holiday weekend then Im off to New York for a week on Tuesday!

[DemonHorse]

judging by your website, you don't tinkert (with the HTML) very well.

but then

I am sure the HTMl stuff you've done is fine. It's just the actual design

then why not say it was the design in the first place?

with a name like s.h.i.t.e what did you expect? Obviously another one to miss the point.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

it makes my eyes go all trippy.... nice.

[Mcqueen_]

But there's no point in having a knowledge of HTML or FLASH or anyother website authoring tool if you don't know what looks good (Or at least 'ok') design wise.

That's bollocks - some web developers can code (x)html/css for a site using design done by someone else.

Plus - His site is more accessible than your bands and the 'Horny Hats' one. I could disable the page colours on his site if the contrast means i couldn't read the text (or even customize all the colours in a custom style sheet). Couldn't do that with yours could I. A screen reader could read his site .. not yours. Using real text wins over full flash/images.

Web design isn't all about the looks.

[DemonHorse]

Yeah what good are fantastic looks if theres no substance/content?

[Eddie]

well, I will disagree. The website does need to be accesible but looks win hands down If and only if the site is still accessible. The best sites look great and are extremely accessible. One that looks good but is not accessible is rubbish. One that is accesible but still looks bad is also rubbish. it's all about a balance. I belive that the sites you mentioned of mine are both accesible and look ok - not the best in looks or accessibility but a good middle ground.

If you disagree then that's fair enough.

[DemonHorse]

Yeah a middle ground is probably the best, thats fair enough, and partly the point I was trying to make... rather badly. I think it's also what McQueen was trying to say with the "not all about looks" statement, we agree on that in a round-about way.

Its just not what my site that you've seen is about. Its called s.h.i.t.e and its meant to be just that, not some swish piece of cyber real estate.

Anyways im off to make the site for the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitaton Into Society....

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

my phrase for today:

stop boring me with this rubbish

[DemonHorse]

My phrase for... well maybe monday or tuesday...
"I'm actually starting to hate this Scott Mills fella less"

[Minnie the Minx]

Well today I mainly mentioned the words:

London, Afro wig, Zane Lowe, studio, photos, Radio1

[Mcqueen_]

The website does need to be accesible but looks win hands down If and only if the site is still accessible.

Hmm..so..
1. The website does need to be accesible
2. But Looks win point 1.
3. Point 2 only applies if point 1 applies.

I belive that the sites you mentioned of mine are both accesible and look ok - not the best in looks or accessibility but a good middle ground.

I think this highlights the point you made earlier - you're not an expert.

Read the sites that you think is "good for pointing out bad design and useability for websites":

The Biggest Web Design Mistakes of 2004

Point 9 - Forgetting the purpose of text.

Text is Text. Don't use graphics or Flash for text.
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Middleground smiddleground. If you're gunna be picky get it right yourself. Remember.

The best sites look great and are extremely accessible.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

seriously create your own thread or go somewhere they discuss this....... its just painfully tedious.

[Eddie]

Agreed. Even I'm out of this one now.

[fred]

Agreed i typed in googlesearch= boringbastardsforum and it sent me here

[fred]

seriously create your own thread or go somewhere they discuss this....... its just painfully tedious.

id suggest the 'things that bore me today' thread

[DemonHorse]

seriously create your own thread or go somewhere they discuss this....... its just painfully tedious.

id suggest the 'things that bore me today' thread

I was thinking of putting you and your posts in that.

[Andy Bkr]

Agreed i typed in googlesearch= boringbastardsforum and it sent me here

well don't come on then simple really

[Sidders]

He probably feels at home here.

[Quincy]

today ive been saying

what are the odds on a keith gillespe hat-trick?

[DemonHorse]

this week, i are been mostly saying.... [/jesse from fast show]

[Quincy]

this week i have mostly been eating.... custard creams

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

today ive been saying

what are the odds on a keith gillespe hat-trick?

whats that a losing bet, a double vodka and then an arrest on a sex charge?

[Walter Sobchak]

Today I am mostly been saying "my head hurts"

[Ickle Angel]

This morning i was saying wheres my phone charger? Oh yes 200 bloody miles away