[scamp88]

Hello I started this topic because i saw one similar and liked the idea.....
The idea is you say about something you belive or whatever that might not be popular or what the general opinon is on something.

Like for example, At a resturant with my friend we started talking about people who live on benfits, and then we both agreed how flipping smart they are...all they do is pop out a few kiddies and then the government gives em money, and if they make some sort of effort to look for work they get even more money,!!!!

So we dicided how unpopular it proberly is and even thou i pay for these ppl, chav family who sponge of the state are smart ppl they sit around having fun smoking weed and drinking

and also i Think that Tesco is annoying and i hate the way they tell me that they are cheaper than asda's and i perfer ASDA much more to the Evil Tesco

and I dont know how this might go down....I can stand Edith Bowman

And finally i think in some case they should bring back hanging (god lord i sound like my grandfather)...epsicall who the boy who murdered poor Rhys Jones

[scamp88]

and also i forgot to say i think Religion is a wendy House for the soul

[scamp88]

And also I think banning Smacking is just nuts! I was smacked as a child and it didnt do me any harm......and they say smacking causes violence in children and crap but think back in the day when smacking was always used we didnt have the problems we do today!! It seems now parents wont smack there children who even tell them off and then we get this gang culture, I work in the offices of The police in cardiff, and the amout of youth realted crimes that dont get reported on in the papers are mad, and it is only getting worse!


Why wont it let me edit my comments so i can put this in one eh?

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[Console]

I don't think that there's a lot that I think and don't say, and when I don't say what I'm thinking it's not because of any morals or other such nonsense, but because I don't think it would be of interest to those around me.

chav family who sponge of the state are smart ppl they sit around having fun smoking weed and drinking

I think you're misinterpreting the term 'Chav' and have also mistakenly used the word 'smart' in place of 'selfish'; it doesn't take a particularly brilliant intellect to abuse a system that is designed to help everyone.

and also i Think that Tesco is annoying and i hate the way they tell me that they are cheaper than asda's and i perfer ASDA much more to the Evil Tesco

Are Tesco's cheaper than ASDA? Do they also specifically say ASDA, because I though that was against the advertising standards?

And finally i think in some case they should bring back hanging (god lord i sound like my grandfather)...epsicall who the boy who murdered poor Rhys Jones

Why should you be killed for making one mistake? I don't know a lot about this 'Rhys Jones' case (mainly because they're over-dramatised and still boring as hell), but would it really be far for the state to kill someone for making a mistake; for an act that could very well have been a symptom of temporary insanity? What if the person is wrongly convicted? There's a way back from being imprisoned, but there is not way of coming back from the dead (with current technology anyway).

Why wont it let me edit my comments so i can put this in one eh?

Because you're supposed to check your post before posting it.

and also i forgot to say i think Religion is a wendy House for the soul

I have no idea what that means, but it sounds deep.

[foot-loose]

I think tesco is way better than Asda - its better organised and they have more of what I want. Plus, the quality is better. Ive never compared to Asda, but i'm happy with the price.

I'll assume you meant that you "can't" stand Edith? I've got no problems with her really - she is very happy all the time which can get irritating after a while, but thats about it. I think there are a few on here that dont like her much though.

I'm not sure the death penalty would make much difference if it came back - they have it in the States it doesnt seem to act as a huge deterrent. What right does any person have to decide that another person should or shouldn't live? If it was to come back - I would think it should be lethal injection as oppose to hanging. Hanging is disgusting.

My comments on religion have been documented already on here and I can't really be bothered getting back into it again. Each to their own - as long as each persons beliefs are not pressed onto others, then its all good.

Smacking - there is a thin line between what is right and wrong. I think a quick smack across the back of the leg gets the point across to the child, but I can see how it could cause a kid to do the same to someone else their own age. I once saw a woman leathering the crap out of her child because the wee girl wouldnt stop crying.

It doesnt let you edit so that you have to think a bit before you post.

From Tescos to Edith to hanging to religion to smacking to editing posts - talk about random!

[Console]

I'll assume you meant that you "can't" stand Edith?

I assumed that 'scamp88' assumed that everyone would dislike Edith and was being outrageous by expressing her 'can stand'ness for Edith.

Smacking - there is a thin line between what is right and wrong.

That's the smacking thing in a nutshell, it's far easier to ban it entirely (which is no bad thing) than to try and figure out if a 'smacking' was for a punishment or some type of abuse, and if it was a punishment, whether that punishment was too severe for the cause.

[Sunny So Cal]

I like Edith - for the record. Though, yes, the perkiness gets old but you can always just switch off the radio.
Smacking - I think a quick smack is fine, however, if you're in a shop and someone is smacking the crap out of her kid, do you assume it is for the first time or whether there's darker forces at work there? It's a cringe-worthy spectacle and there I agree w/Foot and say it is a thin line. Personally, I don't think it should be done in public under any circumstances. If you're kid is acting up -- leave. Period. I'm still amazed by people that'll bring their children into fine restaurants and when the poor thing has had enough of waiting for their meal and starts being A CHILD, the parents smack them or let them remain noisily and disturbing others.
Lethal injection is too kind for a lot of people. Hanging is disgusting and archaic.
Religion is a personal thing and whether you're religious or not you shouldn't ram your opinions down other people's throats. Live and let live and don't judge other people -- my take on religion.
What the hell is a wendy House for the soul??

[Console]

Lethal injection is too kind for a lot of people.

Ok, you're going to have to explain that; how exactly is the Lethal Injection, an injection that kills you, ends your life, too kind?

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

And finally i think in some case they should bring back hanging (god lord i sound like my grandfather)...epsicall who the boy who murdered poor Rhys Jones

Why should you be killed for making one mistake? I don't know a lot about this 'Rhys Jones' case (mainly because they're over-dramatised and still boring as hell), but would it really be far for the state to kill someone for making a mistake; for an act that could very well have been a symptom of temporary insanity? What if the person is wrongly convicted? There's a way back from being imprisoned, but there is not way of coming back from the dead (with current technology anyway).

Hopefully they will make the next murder more entertaining for you? moron.

[TuckerGreyhound]

I love watching people using food stamps to buy steak for their pit bulls they use to fight other pit bulls while they feed their kids fruit punch and sugar snacks

[Sunny So Cal]

Lethal injection is too kind for a lot of people.

Ok, you're going to have to explain that; how exactly is the Lethal Injection, an injection that kills you, ends your life, too kind?

Because they don't deserve to have their life ended quickly. Period. Stick them in prison and leave them there.

[Console]

Ah, I see, surely that would apply to any Capital Punishment then.

[Sunny So Cal]

Yes, that would be any capital punishment. Because, not to belabor the point you already made, but it stands to reason that some people are wrongly convicted. No need killing anyone let alone innocent ones and the ones that aren't innocent should pay for their violent crimes for the rest of their lives.

[Zoot]

I love watching people using food stamps to buy steak for their pit bulls they use to fight other pit bulls while they feed their kids fruit punch and sugar snacks

I miss read the end bit as 'sugar snaps' and thought 'whats wrong with feeding your children them? they're yummy AND healthy!
The death penelty is a tricky thing. If the guilty party showed remorse then keeping bhim locked up for the rest of life for murder would be more punishment than killing him. But then there is the whole 'what you give is what you recieve attitude', but only if that would stop the person comitting the crime in the first place.

I do however believe that Rapists and Pedophiles should be castrated.

[Sunny So Cal]

I do however believe that Rapists and Pedophiles should be castrated.

I agree!

[Bruvva]

And also I think banning Smacking is just nuts! I was smacked as a child and it didnt do me any harm......

Apart from the fact that being exposed to violence has made you think that state sponsored killing is justified.

[foot-loose]

Hah

Bruvva makes a valid point, Scampie.

[Yudster]

I don't know whether this qualifies as an unpopular opinion, but it ticks the boxes that I wouldn't usually say it, and I do genuinely believe it, so here goes - there are some utter morons posting on this forum.

[MK Chris]

So we dicided how unpopular it proberly is and even thou i pay for these ppl, chav family who sponge of the state are smart ppl they sit around having fun smoking weed and drinking

Yeah, smart people who smoke weed and drink in front of their kids, setting a really good example and ruining their young children's lungs, as well as their own.

and also i Think that Tesco is annoying and i hate the way they tell me that they are cheaper than asda's and i perfer ASDA much more to the Evil Tesco

You haven't really given much of a valid reason to hate Tesco; their prices are reasonable. I think they are allowed to mention competitors for price comparisons or surveys conducted.

And finally i think in some case they should bring back hanging (god lord i sound like my grandfather)...epsicall who the boy who murdered poor Rhys Jones

Why should we lower ourselves to the level of the people who decide they have the choice of life and death over fellow human beings? I've said it before, but an 'eye for an eye' society is an extremely dangerous one. Crucially, there is the extremely high probability that someone you execute will not actually be guilty of the crime they have been convicted of. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that convicted criminals should get a cushy lifestyle in prison, however, I certainly don't think we should be killing them off.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

I don't know whether this qualifies as an unpopular opinion, but it ticks the boxes that I wouldn't usually say it, and I do genuinely believe it, so here goes - there are some utter morons posting on this forum.

Seconded.

Also Console would have been told off by Chris for being a moron on a regular basis if it wasn't for the fact he does so much work for the site.

[Console]

You assume he hasn't.

[Walter Sobchak]

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The death penalty is a tricky thing. If the guilty party showed remorse then keeping him locked up for the rest of life for murder would be more punishment than killing him. But then there is the whole 'what you give is what you recieve attitude', but only if that would stop the person comitting the crime in the first place.

I do however believe that Rapists and Pedophiles should be castrated.

It is tricky, agreed.

And its pretty obvious that in too many cases prison does not work.

Whats the answer? a daily mail reader may say, expecting an answer that manages to deal with 'the bad people' in one fail swoop, well, there isn't one, and never will be.....

Their has got to be answers, many of them.
Their is no doubt that Prison will prove effective for some, yet when I hear someone refering to their latest prison sentence as a visit to the "Gym", then its obviously not working in his case, in fact, that same guy has now been locked up again!

The trouble is no government is going to stop people going to prison, nor are they going to change the way justice is dealt with, or the format it takes, for instance; You mention rapists and paedophiles, My belief is that the people that do this are suffering from an illness of some form, after all, it isn't a normal act!
So how can such an illness be treated. Well, it can't, its such a horrible thing that results from it, and very personal,that people would not allow it to be accepted as such.
Yet with a mind-shift in some cases a lethal injection could be administered to, for instance serial rapists, on the grounds that this person is not safe to cohabit this world with others, no revenge, just a 'treatment' that would deal with the situation.

But at what level would that injection start at, and lets say scientists come up with a treatment that allows that person to carry on his normal life (which in itself is impossible) what if that treatment fails, and we find that lots of 'cured' serial rapists are now walking around and doing their worst?

The whole thing is an ethical and political nightmare, but it really needs looking into.

The best thing is for a world level playing field on socio-economic grounds, where everyone has a decent living standard, and receives the help they need in everything from parenting to education, to do that though we'd need to stop the greed factor, and honestly, can you ever see that happening?

[Vivienne]

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And finally i think in some case they should bring back hanging (god lord i sound like my grandfather)...epsicall who the boy who murdered poor Rhys Jones

Why should you be killed for making one mistake? I don't know a lot about this 'Rhys Jones' case (mainly because they're over-dramatised and still boring as hell), but would it really be far for the state to kill someone for making a mistake; for an act that could very well have been a symptom of temporary insanity? What if the person is wrongly convicted? There's a way back from being imprisoned, but there is not way of coming back from the dead (with current technology anyway).

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i cannot believe i am actually reading this... i'm sure to the poor kid's family it is neither over-dramatised nor boring in ANY WAY!! And yep, absolutely, you do a big crime, you should die... i'm all for that. Temporary insanity - pffft.. i could say that every day!!

[Vivienne]

[[quote="Zoot"]
I do however believe that Rapists and Pedophiles should be castrated.

?[/quote] NO. They should just plain die.. simple. They give people they do these things to life sentences, so they in turn are clearly undeserving of a life at all.... many people who are raped may not necessarily tell even their own families, and go on to suffer in silence, feeling frightened of strangers, or frightened there may be a re-occurence. This thread has made me absolutely mad.

[Console]

i cannot believe i am actually reading this

I know what you mean, I'm always a little shocked that you can read.

i'm sure to the poor kid's family it is neither over-dramatised nor boring in ANY WAY!!

That may be the case, but as I was referring to me and not them I can't see what that has to do with anything.

And yep, absolutely, you do a big crime, you should die... i'm all for that. Temporary insanity - pffft.. i could say that every day!!

What if you're wrongly convicted for a 'big crime' and killed by the state, what then?

Also, why should one mistake, that probably took seconds to make, outweigh everything else you've ever done in your entire life? Yes, there needs to be some sort of repercussion for the mistake, but ending someone's life because of that event should not be allowed.

Out of curiosity, what would you consider to be a 'big crime'?

They give people they do these things to life sentences, so they in turn are clearly undeserving of a life at all.

No, they're considered to be undeserving of freedom, not life.