[Sidders]

Actually, I agree with Aled. Us lot can go ahead and critisise Fame Acadamy, but at the end of the day, we're not the sort of people that the show's aimed at. But I don't agree that FA is aimed at the same people that watched Big Brother, I think BB had a wider appeal because the housemates are regular people with no particular talent. I think FA is aimed at the same sort of people that watch popstars etc.

[Minnie the Minx]

I think one of the Problems of Fame Academy is that it isnt on every night on normal tv like Big Brother was. This made Big Brother easier to get into and know who everone is.

[FAAled]

"
Older Generation have Emmerdale
Girls watch soaps too
If its aimed at Kids then why have singer songwriters, surely we all know that all kids want is pap like Gareth Gates and Blue.
Remember also that Channel 4 had big brother and Fame Academy is on BBC1 too. Thats the reason why its higher. Channel 4 highest show each week gets 4 million at best while BBC1 gets 13million. Plus Fame Academy has the advantage of having Eastenders before it.

Thanks for the Welsh Happy Birthday.

The BBC can't just do a populist programme like PopIdol - it has to find REAL talent hence why there are kids from lots of different backgrounds and why writing and playing instruments are important- to show that these kids have REAL talent. Watching popStars The Rivals you can really tell that there are yet another 10 Gareth/Will lookalikes there. ITV aren't doing it to find talent at all - they're there for a popular TV format only.

However I disagree that's ALL the kids want. My criticism with BBC1 is that they seemed to have chickened out at the last minute and have gone for 3 progs a week to be safe - his means that it's difficult to get into the programme ina a Big Brother style. Unfortunately it's vital for us to get behind the kids and really care about how well they do on the Friday night as that's what's going to create the tension on the night.

They do have immense talent (as you'd see if you watched digital or the 7 o'clock programmes). It's the nerves of the big Friday night that's hindereing them at the moment. But that'll the change as we get into the series. Remember we're 1 week in. There's another 9 to go.

btw no problem about the Birthday wish - hope it was a good one.

[FAAled]

I think one of the Problems of Fame Academy is that it isnt on every night on normal tv like Big Brother was. This made Big Brother easier to get into and know who everone is.

I agree. But then, that's why I'm there as FAAled to compensate

[StaticFish]

I think your trying to flog a dead horse aled. these things just dont have any appeal to people any more, as bob said. At first I didnt think BBC1 would do a show like this.

must be there attempt at being more "hip and trendy"

Just my two pence
Dan

[Uglybob]

Channel 4 Rejected Fame Academy

mmmm, ill leave you to use your own head to figure that one out

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

its not the format its the complete lack of talent........

[FAAled]

I think your trying to flog a dead horse aled. these things just dont have any appeal to people any more, as bob said. At first I didnt think BBC1 would do a show like this.

must be there attempt at being more "hip and trendy"

Just my two pence
Dan

I'm not trying to flog anything here. Fame Academy is here to stay on the BBC networks for the next 9 weeks. It's also to stay a big part of my job. I have the privilaged position of being able to feedback concerns and ideas to the FA team about how we can move forward from here. ( They don't have to listen to me btw - they can just ignore me).

I thought lets see what the complaints are about the series (constructive ones Uglybob) and then what we can do about answering them or changing them. Just not liking or watching the show because it's on the same time as Chris' and then pooh-poohing it with unreasonable reasons isn't helpful. For example, the students ARE talented.

I don't know whether the Channel 4 turning the idea away is true or not - but I think it's churlish to try and read into that for programme quality reasons. They may very well have turned it away because Big brother takes enough time on their schedules, or they didn't want one Production Company (Endemol) making SO many of the hours that they broadcast from etc etc. It doesn't neccassarily HAVE to be because they thought it was a shite idea!

[Chief Erf]

Aled Say all that in welsh, i only speak welsh.

[FAAled]

Aled Say all that in welsh, i only speak welsh.

Cer I grafi!

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

if the students are talented they are massively underperforming then... i think they should all sing without the aid of a backing track next week an prove it...

[Chief Erf]

I Love you too Aled

[MK Chris]

Guessing Aled told Chief man over there to f*ck off or something similar...?

[Funky Drummer]

I hate Fame Academy and programmes of that ilk.

[FAAled]

I Love you too Aled

[StaticFish]

sorry aled, i agree my argument wasn't THAT constuctive and helpfull

i just feel that the cycle life of the format of these shows are over. for a little while at least. do you think that if the show had been 'air-ed' a year more down the line, that people would have been less bored about the whole idea and format?

dunno.
Dan

[Uglybob]

So Naomi has dropped out of the show now too. Does this mean shes on tomorrow too.

[StaticFish]

hopefully not . interviews are soo boring to listen to

[Sidders]

Not when he's interviewing someone interesting. I always like it when Wyclef's on the show.

[StaticFish]

yeah but when they just ramble on with no humor, its not fun

[odb983]

Reality tv has lost its edge. BRING BACK FICTION!

[Chief Erf]

They should have a battle of the bands on like they do in america. I'm talking proper bands not mime acts.

[StaticFish]

all the little girls will start complaining, and they make up the majority of that timeslot

go figure...

[Minnie the Minx]

The BBC can't just do a populist programme like PopIdol - it has to find REAL talent hence why there are kids from lots of different backgrounds and why writing and playing instruments are important- to show that these kids have REAL talent.

Does this mean that when the winner gets the recording contract they wont be puppets like Will and Gareth? Will the winner be able to release songs that they wrote instead of having to resort to releasing crappy cover versions?

My Welsh (wrote how you would say it!)(hopefully)

Come-buy-er!

[kendra k]

it sounds horrible thank heavens it aint in america