[Vivienne]

I would like other people's opinions on this please.

I have been called a "hag" by a ginger haired member of this board. A "hag" is apparently someone who does not know when to quit.

However, I would like to know why this is considered a bad thing? Surely it is good for a person, to keep on going, and have opinions, regardless of whether they are different to everyone else's? Things, at the end of the day, don't get done in this World by giving up.

[Console]

As we're discussing something that happened in a PM, this is a conversation started because Viv doesn't like the actual definitions of words, so I changed the definition of the word 'hag', to try and prove a point that you can't just go around changing definitions. Obviously, this particular tactic was aimed at the wrong person.

Oh, and I said a 'hag' was a 'female person who doesn't know when to quit'.

[Boboff]

do you have ginger hair then ?

[Vivienne]

No, it was aimed at the right person. I said it in a pm, and I'll say it again, you just don't like being challenged, but you always have to be right, and get your own way.

[Console]

I would counter with the same point I made in my PM, but then we'd just be going around in circles.

[Boboff]

Viv are you having a go at Console, Foots or me ?

Are you really getting upset about being called a Hag ?

There is a difference between sticking to your own beliefs, and not being able to understand another persons opinion, or that fact that you could actually hold an opinion which although it is your opinion, could also be wrong, factually and actually something which which ever way you look at it, it is just simply wrong. If you continue in your belief then, after having the evidence provided, then you are just stupid, and in no way a hag.

[Vivienne]

well, that's no different from any other day, is it. anyhow, I could say that you are a hag (equally), because you've always got to have the last word.

[Vivienne]

Viv are you having a go at Console, Foots or me ?

Are you really getting upset about being called a Hag ?

There is a difference between sticking to your own beliefs, and not being able to understand another persons opinion, or that fact that you could actually hold an opinion which although it is your opinion, could also be wrong, factually and actually something which which ever way you look at it, it is just simply wrong. If you continue in your belief then, after having the evidence provided, then you are just stupid, and in no way a hag.

i'm not really having a go at anyone, Boboff.. I just couldn't quite believe what came up in a pm, because the way I see it, is that the people who don't give up, are the ones who get things done in this World. anyhow, it's almost lunchtime.

[Boboff]

This is like sitting in the back of the car when your parents are arguing.!


Viv, and you know full well that console will not post again you to make you look like a hag. Surely you must know that if you say you always have to have the last word then it is likely that no response will come as it just proves you wrong better than any come back

[Vivienne]

groan... at least I have a cheesecake.

[wurzel]

i always thought a hag was anoter term for a witch

[Yudster]

Surely it is good for a person, to keep on going, and have opinions, regardless of whether they are different to everyone else's? Things, at the end of the day, don't get done in this World by giving up.

No, not when this attitude blinds a person to the fact that they are wrong. Sticking to your guns is only a good thing if you're on the right track. Being in a minority - even a minority of one - doesn't absolutely mean that you are wrong, but the fact is that sometimes you are - and it's a good idea to recognise it. Things, at the end of the day, don't get done in this world by people who don't learn from others.

[Chris]

I'll have the last word, thanks.