[Andy B]

I don't do luck, superstition, astrology, tarot cards, runestones, crystals, accupuncture, homoerotic medicine, urban myths, old wives talkes, folklore or Jeremy Kyle.

[Vivienne]

Annoying me: a new guy has moved in underneath where I live, and the NOISE is just out of this world. He and his gf were having a colossal argument at 0300 hrs., which resulted in another neighbour calling the Police.

Thank God this noise you heard was just arguing.

What do you mean, timps?

[timp]

Annoying me: a new guy has moved in underneath where I live, and the NOISE is just out of this world. He and his gf were having...

OK, think about what I may have been thinking up till that point.

[Console]

He means that it's good that you didn't hear screaming - one of them could have been killing the other.

[Vivienne]

Well, to be honest, I think that's why the police were called. Because we were all extremely concerned. He only moved in 3 weeks ago, and has managed to make more noise since then than people have in a YEAR.

[MK Chris]

How do spiders spin the first bit of their web?

At the back of the spiders body there are three pairs of glands, each with a tube. These tubes are called spinnerets. The spider presses the spinnerets against an object and forces out some liquid silk. As the spider moves away from the object, this draws out the sticky liquid and it then hardens in the air.

To make sure the spider doesn't get caught in its own web, the spider coats its legs with an oily substance from its mouth.

Yes but what Andy B was saying is how does the spider get from one object to another before the web is actually spun, because there's nothing to hold on to up until that point.

I'd like to take this opportunity to scare Charlalottie.

[Vivienne]

Maybe this a tiny almost invisible bit of thread (to the human eye), which spider is using.

[MK Chris]

Yes, but how did that get there?

[Vivienne]

Er... Mr Spider created it.

[Ezza]

Well if its solidifying as it leaves the spider, then its like walking through air with a pole-type thing holding you there. Thats how I was seeing it anyway.

[MK Chris]

Er... Mr Spider created it.

Yes, but how did he get it there without any thread in the first place to support him?

Well if its solidifying as it leaves the spider, then its like walking through air with a pole-type thing holding you there. Thats how I was seeing it anyway.

Yes, but the thread only goes as far as the spider has taken it.. if it doesn't reach the other object yet, how is the spider managing to reach?

'Tis a good point.

[Vivienne]

That's what I'm saying ... the spider must have a thread, which not visible to the human eye.

I always help spiders out the shower, and the sink.

[MK Chris]

That's what I'm saying ... the spider must have a thread, which not visible to the human eye.

I understand what you're saying, but if one end of that thread (if it exists) is attached to the object that the spider is spinning from, where is the other end attached to?

[Vivienne]

The spider itself?

[catherine]

Doctor's and blood tests, i'm going to sue.

[Vivienne]

You can't sue for a blood test!

[catherine]

No but i can sue if it turns out that them piss arsing around with me when i had pancreatitis means now i have chronic pancreatitis.

[MK Chris]

The spider itself?

Yes.. so how, then, does the spider get to its destination if there is no thread in front of it to hang on to?

[Console]

Crawls?

[Vivienne]

As I've said before, I think there must be a thread NOT VISIBLE to the human eye.

[MK Chris]

Never mind.

[Console]

As I've said before, I think there must be a thread NOT VISIBLE to the human eye.

Is this another 'joke'?

[Vivienne]

No! Look, I've had about 3 hours sleep, and I really couldn't care less if I was surrounded by spiders.

[Console]

Okay then.

In answer to Tophers question (the actual point of which some people don't seem to have grasped), the first strand is created either by the spider physically crawling (do spiders technically crawl?) to from the start to finish, or (if outside) by letting out a strand into the wind and letting it catch on something.

[Vivienne]

That's pretty much what I was saying in the first place!!!