[TIAL]

But, as they repeatedly pointed out, it wasn't the temperature of the water that was the problem, it was the taste.

[Console]

What was the water machine?

[Vivienne]

The water machine was to create the ultimate in purified water!! Unfortunately, when the Dragons tasted it, it was stinking.

[MK Chris]

Aren't there machines that do that already?

[Vivienne]

Yeh, but this seriously took all manner of chemicals out apparently... They were discussing and showing just how many chemicals are in water before purification. Scary.

[Yudster]

I missed the "science" (although I suspect it may have been sketchy anyway), but apparently it was a machine which made water out of air.

[MK Chris]

Yeh, but this seriously took all manner of chemicals out apparently... They were discussing and showing just how many chemicals are in water before purification. Scary.

Yeah, but (and I may be barking up the completely wrong tree here) I'm pretty sure you can get water purifiers already.

I missed the "science" (although I suspect it may have been sketchy anyway), but apparently it was a machine which made water out of air.

Ah, I see.. so, presumably, extracts the moisture from the air in some way?

[Vivienne]

The Dragons saw it as a waste of time, because

a) the water bizarrely ended up stinking worse than it did before the process.

b) they said the Sellers would have to go door-to-door trying to drum up business for this particular project.

[TIAL]

I missed the "science" (although I suspect it may have been sketchy anyway), but apparently it was a machine which made water out of air.

Ah, I see.. so, presumably, extracts the moisture from the air in some way?

Yup, that was the USP - the filtering of the water was just an extra advantage.

[Vivienne]

But why HAS it gone so wrong though?

[Yudster]

I think the Dragons threw them out because they recognised that they were a couple of pyramid-selling crooks on the make.

[Console]

apparently it was a machine which made water out of air.

Was it like one of these?

[Vivienne]

eh?

[TIAL]

a) the water bizarrely ended up stinking worse than it did before the process.

I think this was a bit unfair of the dragons as it was a brand new machine and most water filters on the market need a few goes before the water tastes good anyway.

b) they said the Sellers would have to go door-to-door trying to drum up business for this particular project.

I didn't understand what led them to believe that door-to-door pyramid schemes would be the only way to sell this. Anyone know?

[Vivienne]

O, the programme may be viewed on iplayer = making the unmissable unwatchable, for those who wish to see this contraption.

[TIAL]

Was it like one of these?

Yes, I didn't know they had those on the market at the moment. So much for that then!

[Vivienne]

Christ, it's already in existence. How embarassing. And no-one on the show picked up on that.

[Yudster]

a) the water bizarrely ended up stinking worse than it did before the process.

I think this was a bit unfair of the dragons as it was a brand new machine and most water filters on the market need a few goes before the water tastes good anyway.

b) they said the Sellers would have to go door-to-door trying to drum up business for this particular project.

I didn't understand what led them to believe that door-to-door pyramid schemes would be the only way to sell this. Anyone know?

Like I said, I don;t think it was the product that made the Dragons decide against investing, I think it was the people. None of them became millionaires by giving money to dodgy blokes with a cheesy line in sales patter.

[Console]

Was it like one of these?

Yes, I didn't know they had those on the market at the moment. So much for that then!

Yeah, I saw that one and this one on Engadget back in March.

[MK Chris]

Like I said, I don;t think it was the product that made the Dragons decide against investing, I think it was the people. None of them became millionaires by giving money to dodgy blokes with a cheesy line in sales patter.

Nope, they became billionaires by being dodgy blokes themselves.. you show me a self-made millionaire who hasn't done a dodgy deal!

[Vivienne]

I agree. That James one looks capable of anything.

[TIAL]

Call me naïve, but I like to think you can become a billionaire with hard work, skill and a bit of luck.

[Yudster]

True enough. And I can't make up my mind about James - on the one hand he has this lovely, gentle, soothing, friendly voice - on the other, he looks like he'd sell his own grandmother.

[MK Chris]

Call me naïve, but I like to think you can become a billionaire with hard work, skill and a bit of luck.

You're naïve.

[Vivienne]

Seconded.