[foot-loose]

but they ain't taught how to manouver A car. When I did my lessons, I was taught when to turn the wheel based on the phone number on my instructors back window - how that teaches someone how to manouver escapes me.

[dimtimjim]

but they ain't taught how to manouver A car. When I did my lessons, I was taught when to turn the wheel based on the phone number on my instructors back window - how that teaches someone how to manouver escapes me.

Too right, when i was taught to drive, the instructor had little bits of white tape on the passenger window to aid judging reverse parking!! I'm sure all his pupils passed and dashed straight to Staples to get some white tape....

Getting your licence is not based enough on 'real' driving. How many people out there regularly experience how their car handles when emergency stopping and have the experience to make this oh-so important of monouvers safe for all concerned?!!

The mere fact you can get a licence without having ever driven on a motorway is purely stupid.... I do best part of 200 miles per day on the M1 and see some horrific driving standards. Truck drivers making a roll-upw hile driving.... Mr Big in his BMW sat in 1st lane behind a lorry, reading the paper....

The government slogan is kidding us all. Speed does not kill, inapropriate use of speed and poor driving standards are the real killers.

[ladbroke]

I agree speed itself isn't the problem, it's the idiots not knowing (or not caring) when it's appropriate. At certain times of the day and night it's not un safe to be travelling at 110 or 120 mph, i.e. dry roads and very little traffic, but you get some morons trying it on a packed motorway in the pouring rain. They usually drive a BMW 3 series. I think variable speeds are the way forward, as most, if not all the motorway network is covered by cameras, speeds could be set dependant upon conditions. And enforced by real policemen rather than cameras. Can't remember the last time I saw motorway police, they seem to be a dying breed.

What also amazes me is that I could pass my test in the morning and drive a Ferrari in the afternoon, if I had enough money. Some sort of performance restriction should be in place for the first few years.

[Munki Bhoy]

but they ain't taught how to manouver A car. When I did my lessons, I was taught when to turn the wheel based on the phone number on my instructors back window - how that teaches someone how to manouver escapes me.

That must just have been you. Wing mirror, back door handle, one turn off. I'm brilliant at reverse parking thanks to that one little bit of information I was taught by my instructor. Even if I do have to guess with three doors!

[Yudster]

but they ain't taught how to manouver A car. When I did my lessons, I was taught when to turn the wheel based on the phone number on my instructors back window - how that teaches someone how to manouver escapes me.

I was - just because you had a rubbish instructor! I was taught how to manouevre in reverse properly using the mirrors and good observastion (although it was my general education which enabled me to spell it Footie). Hence these days I can park better than most men I travel with - including Mr Yudster.

[foot-loose]

Cars wern't invented when you were learning to drive. Reversing a horse is easier. Neigh blind spots.

[Sunny So Cal]

but they ain't taught how to manouver A car. When I did my lessons, I was taught when to turn the wheel based on the phone number on my instructors back window - how that teaches someone how to manouver escapes me.

I was - just because you had a rubbish instructor! I was taught how to manouevre in reverse properly using the mirrors and good observastion (although it was my general education which enabled me to spell it Footie).

So, Yuds, were you out sick the day that general education enabled the class to spell 'observation' correctly?

[foot-loose]

* sake.

Why didn't I spot that?!

"Neigh blind spots" though. That's comedy genius.

[Sunny So Cal]

* sake.

Why didn't I spot that?!

I'll hazard a guess. Blind spot?

[Yudster]

So, Yuds, were you out sick the day that general education enabled the class to spell 'observation' correctly?

No, but I am - unlike you, token American - able to tell the difference between a spelling error and a typo. Ner.

[MK Chris]

I believe at this point, the following is appropriate:

[S4B]

Oh I LOVE Touche Turtle! Thanks Topher!

[Sunny So Cal]

So, Yuds, were you out sick the day that general education enabled the class to spell 'observation' correctly?

No, but I am - unlike you, token American - able to tell the difference between a spelling error and a typo. Ner.

Haha. 'Token American'? Put that way I feel like an exhibit at the zoo!

[S4B]

*builds a cage*

[foot-loose]

So, Yuds, were you out sick the day that general education enabled the class to spell 'observation' correctly?

No, but I am - unlike you, token American - able to tell the difference between a spelling error and a typo. Ner.

Haha. 'Token American'? Put that way I feel like an exhibit at the zoo!

You LOOK like an exhibit at the zoo as well.

[Sunny So Cal]

Yeah, like the monkeys that fling poo. Come a little closer, Foots.