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By AC021193
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neilt0 wrote:
AC021193 wrote:Erm, I downloaded Day One and, despite the fact it took an hour to download, I only ended up getting 10 seconds of 'Beautiful Day'. Am I doing something wrong? I'm using Google Chrome as a browser and realplayer.


Use VLC, like in the instructions I posted.



Works now! Thank you!!! :D
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By neilt0
#371283
Here's today's show, Friday 16th January 2009: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N81NEJOP

As mentioned, I missed the first 20 minutes, but I think the only major visual loss is Chris' Mobility Scooter impressions. Fill in the audio gap with BBC iPlayer!

Enjoy!

Highlights
01h:11m:30s Chris winds up Dom (again) with "U2 are really coming in this time. No really! No."
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01h:23m:00s Graham Norton & Lord Andrew Lloyd Lord Webber Lord
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02h:27:00 Chair Dancing by Dom and Dave during Bulgarian Disco Golden Hour song
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By MK Chris
#371287
But what may be the ideal format for you, may not be for someone else - surely if you have the means to convert, then just do that?
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By neilt0
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Scottymeuk wrote:I hate to ask but is there anyway you can upload as a mp4 as i want it on my iPod etc and it seems a bit pointless converting when you can just record in it.


That doesn't make any sense. It's recorded as broadcast -- I've captured the original stream as-is. It's broadcast as an FLV (Flash Video) and that's what I've uploaded.

You can't get any better than the original stream*. If someone wants to re-code it and post it somewhere, go ahead.

* Please don't argue about this or I will go postal.
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By MK Chris
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To be fair to neilt0, who is at best an occasional visitor to this site and doesn't really know people on here particularly well, he has done a tremendous job in getting these recorded and uploaded for complete strangers, in some cases having to transfer them to work first. Preferences for differing file formats will always vary between people, why should have have to convert it into several different formats and upload those as well? If you want it in another format, you should find a way to do it yourself, particularly if, as you seemed to imply, you have the means to convert it anyway.
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By neilt0
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Topher wrote:To be fair to neilt0, who is at best an occasional visitor to this site and doesn't really know people on here particularly well, he has done a tremendous job in getting these recorded and uploaded for complete strangers, in some cases having to transfer them to work first. Preferences for differing file formats will always vary between people, why should have have to convert it into several different formats and upload those as well? If you want it in another format, you should find a way to do it yourself, particularly if, as you seemed to imply, you have the means to convert it anyway.


Yeah, I am great! :D

Thanks for the kind words, Topher. I'm doing the recordings for my own benefit, but I thought it would be nice to "give something back" for peeps who don't get a chance to watch the entire stream live.

I hope they decide to do this every day, I'm loving the Visual Moyles, me.
By Scottymeuk
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I didn't mean convert them. I just assumed he was using a screen recorder or something and you can simply choose the option. Doesnt matter. Thanks anyway. And thanks for all the effort :)
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Scottymeuk wrote:I didn't mean convert them. I just assumed he was using a screen recorder or something and you can simply choose the option.

I don't believe that there's any manual recording as such. The studio streaming, like watching a YouTube video for example, is cached in your Temporary Internet Files folder as randomly named files. If you can identify the video files (normally the largest sized files) copy them to another folder and rename them with a ".flv" at the end. That's your Flash file that neilt0 has kindly been uploading for us.

In due course I will be playing with the files to clip some highlights into MPEG and MP4 formats. This won't be a quick turnaround but if anyone has any requests feel free to suggest some clips/links they would like (hope i'm not treading on your toes neilt0 as you did suggest that some highlights were in progress).
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By Console
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richardtomlinson wrote:I don't believe that there's any manual recording as such. The studio streaming, like watching a YouTube video for example, is cached in your Temporary Internet Files folder as randomly named files. If you can identify the video files (normally the largest sized files) copy them to another folder and rename them with a ".flv" at the end. That's your Flash file that neilt0 has kindly been uploading for us.


Actually, it is proper streaming. The stream is coming from an RTMP server, like the Flash version of the iPlayer uses. RTMP is a proper streaming protocol, as opposed to what YouTube does which uses HTTP and the flash applet to play the file as it's downloading.
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Console wrote:
richardtomlinson wrote:I don't believe that there's any manual recording as such. The studio streaming, like watching a YouTube video for example, is cached in your Temporary Internet Files folder as randomly named files.

Actually, it is proper streaming. The stream is coming from an RTMP server, like the Flash version of the iPlayer uses. RTMP is a proper streaming protocol, as opposed to what YouTube does which uses HTTP and the flash applet to play the file as it's downloading.

I stand corrected.
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By neilt0
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Console wrote:
richardtomlinson wrote:I don't believe that there's any manual recording as such. The studio streaming, like watching a YouTube video for example, is cached in your Temporary Internet Files folder as randomly named files. If you can identify the video files (normally the largest sized files) copy them to another folder and rename them with a ".flv" at the end. That's your Flash file that neilt0 has kindly been uploading for us.


Actually, it is proper streaming. The stream is coming from an RTMP server, like the Flash version of the iPlayer uses. RTMP is a proper streaming protocol, as opposed to what YouTube does which uses HTTP and the flash applet to play the file as it's downloading.


Console is right. Capturing the stream is pretty tricky. I won't say how I did it, for obvious reasons, but it's possible to find out with a bit of research.
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neilt0 wrote:Console is right. Capturing the stream is pretty tricky. I won't say how I did it, for obvious reasons, but it's possible to find out with a bit of research.

Well, even bigger thanks for uploading them then, as there was clearly more to it than I realised.
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neilt0 wrote:
Yeah, I am great! :D

Thanks for the kind words, Topher. I'm doing the recordings for my own benefit, but I thought it would be nice to "give something back" for peeps who don't get a chance to watch the entire stream live.

I hope they decide to do this every day, I'm loving the Visual Moyles, me.


Thank you very much Neil for an awesome job :)
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neilt0 wrote:
Topher wrote:To be fair to neilt0, who is at best an occasional visitor to this site and doesn't really know people on here particularly well, he has done a tremendous job in getting these recorded and uploaded for complete strangers, in some cases having to transfer them to work first. Preferences for differing file formats will always vary between people, why should have have to convert it into several different formats and upload those as well? If you want it in another format, you should find a way to do it yourself, particularly if, as you seemed to imply, you have the means to convert it anyway.


Yeah, I am great! :D

Thanks for the kind words, Topher. I'm doing the recordings for my own benefit, but I thought it would be nice to "give something back" for peeps who don't get a chance to watch the entire stream live.

I hope they decide to do this every day, I'm loving the Visual Moyles, me.


Well said, Toph. Thank you very much, neilt0. It's been brilliant.
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By Andy B
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Well said Topher, I would also say well said to Console but as usual I have no idea what he's on about....if he's got an RMTP then he should go to the doctor about it.
By Pauldc
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The live streams where great but im guessing it might be a pain having the studio extra bright, but it does make good watching and listning and it seems that the bbc had made a nice flash window for it all to work in with the daves log and poll so maybe we will see alot more of this and maybe watch it again on iplayer next time.
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By neilt0
#371375
Aw, shucks. People saying nice things. I didn't really do that much.

I think Will Kinderberg did a great job on the production. As the week went on, the camera angles, cutting between cameras and lighting improved. I think even the video encoding may have improved also. Will, Hoop Dog and whoever else on the "ONLINE" team that worked on it deserve a lot of credit for putting it out there.

I really enjoyed this week of Visual Moyles. I hope that everyone who watched filled out the survey.
If you want it to return and didn't fill out the survey, why not email Radio 1 and/or Will Kinderberg and let them know how much you liked it.

I've updated the highlights from Friday at: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20220&start=20#p371283
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By Andy B
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I thougoughly agree. I'm still a bit drunkled at the minute but the production side of it was great. I like the soft fades to the Cheesy Song. I'd love to see it regularly even if only 1 week per month or something.
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richardtomlinson wrote:In due course I will be playing with the files to clip some highlights into MPEG and MP4 formats. This won't be a quick turnaround ...

jordanhowell wrote:I saw someone posted like 82 videos on their youtube of the visual radio week.
youtube.com/chrismoylesarchive i think it was

Following on from neilt0's sterling work in recording most of the web streaming back in January, I did mention that I would eventually put together some sort of video clip collection.

You may have heard Chris mention it on the show last week (Thu 5th Feb), but in case you didn't hear it I have indeed uploaded quite a few video clips from the week to YouTube.

Furthermore, for those who have a video iPod, iTouch or iPhone I have also created and uploaded the same video clips in MP4 format. It can all be found in the newly created Video Clip Archive (ensure that you have javascript enabled on your web browser otherwise some pages won't load correctly).