[dimtimjim]

A slightly worrying admission from Chris this morning (opening link). We all know he's not the best morning man, but still....

We also got a mention for thread on Chris' lateness last week. Struggling to imagine my morning routine without Chris!!

[Yudster]

Look, if he is using us being annoyed at his regular lateness (not occasional, not one-off, regular) as his main reason for stopping the show, he's on shaky ground don't you think? Anyone who makes such a massive career decision based on the inane postings of a few people on a fansite (yes, us) probably DOES need a break - a long one.

[CrashandByrne]

Has nobody picked up that he was probably taking the piss???? Rants are what Chris does brilliantly

[DevilsDuck]

He did say it was "a bit" Yuds (I know you didn't hear it)

[dimtimjim]

Look, if he is using us being annoyed at his regular lateness (not occasional, not one-off, regular) as his main reason for stopping the show, he's on shaky ground don't you think? Anyone who makes such a massive career decision based on the inane postings of a few people on a fansite (yes, us) probably DOES need a break - a long one.

I like you Yuds, you know that, but i've learned this morning you have your values and your gonna stick to them, to the bitter end. Feel slightly sorry for ya kids now, you're no push-over...! I get impression Mr Yuds must like strong (mentally, not body-buildery) women too!

[Latina]

I say good on Yudster for sticking with how she feels. I'm rarely awake in time for the beginning of the show, but I'm sure that if I was I'd be just as annoyed about it, but not have enough nerve to complain and defend my feelings on it here, as I'm always wary of causing controversy.

The lateness does sound as though it must be very, very annoying if it happens a lot.

[chrysostom]

as someone who finds it very difficult to get up in the mornings, i feel a large degree of sympathy for chris here.

the bit where he says "i'm the only breakfast dj who can't get up" is just reminiscent of being annoyed at himself for physically not being able to get up.

[dimtimjim]

I think the main argument being raised is to go to bed earlier.... Sure, going bed at 2200 may not mean the most exciting life, but thats what Friday and Saturday are for....! Its me and Yuds parental point of view shining through. If the dustbin lids were moaning about struggling to get up, i'd tell 'em to get to bed earlier. I canny help being a boring-old-fart-dad!

[chrysostom]

if i had a dad like you i'd probably be better on with my life - but i was always allowed to scrape out the house just on time...

[dimtimjim]

My fatherly duties do cause such internal division. I see the kids doing sommat, which in my head I think is frikkin hillarious, but in my dad mode, I have to hide that and rollock them for it....!

[MK Chris]

My fatherly duties do cause such internal division. I see the kids doing sommat, which in my head I think is frikkin hillarious, but in my dad mode, I have to hide that and rollock them for it....!

I think I am going to find that difficult.

[Yudster]

.................. physically not being able to get up.

But that's the excuse. He is just as physically able to get up as you or me or anyone else who has to and hates every groaning creaking stinking awful moment of it. He is perfectly capable of doing it, he just doesn't. No one enjoys the moment the alarm goes off and you have to get up, but staying in bed at that point is a choice.

[Latina]

There's always a reason behind someone not being able to get up in the morning. Unless the cause is depression, it's never really simply a case of "I just can't help it, I have a problem with getting up that can't be solved".

It could be down to something missing from the diet, not enough sleep, too much sleep, the wrong amount of excercise, sleeping on issues that are mentally unresolved...

The most likely cause in Chris' case could be simply not getting to bed early enough. If you have a job that involves early starts, unfortunately if you can't bring yourself to adjust your bedtime accordingly then getting up will never cease to be an issue.

Perhaps we should come up with some tips for Chris to help him get a better night's sleep?

[chrysostom]

unless you get woken by your alarm, and your urge to sleep overpowers the conscious thought that you have to get up and you close your eyes...then wake up and it's 10 minutes later.

it's not cut and dry as to whether you get up automatically or not, personally i've always needed an extra force to get up : during my stint as a worker, my girlfriend would always call me to wake me up - and i asked for this because i know that i will close my eyes, then wake up 10, 15 minutes later...given chris' history of the producer calling him - he does the same.

may not be the best thing for a breakfast DJ, but it's not as simple as 'get to bed earlier'

...this is shaping up to be a proper child vs parent argument (getting a lovely perspective into what it would be like to be my mum)

[Latina]

I didn't say it was that simple - I said it could be one (or more) of a number of issues, and I say this as a person who has the exact same "problem" and hasn't yet figured out how to solve it. But I'm certainly not going to kid myself that there's nothing I can do about it or that I shouldn't just accept that if I don't force myself up at the alarm, there's a danger I'll sleep in.

There will be a reason your body doesn't want you to wake up, and there will be ways to help with the problem. To say there's nothing that can be done is a cop out. It's certainly at least worth a try.

unless you get woken by your alarm, and your urge to sleep overpowers the conscious thought that you have to get up and you close your eyes...then wake up and it's 10 minutes later.

it's not cut and dry as to whether you get up automatically or not, personally i've always needed an extra force to get up : during my stint as a worker, my girlfriend would always call me to wake me up - and i asked for this because i know that i will close my eyes, then wake up 10, 15 minutes later...given chris' history of the producer calling him - he does the same.

may not be the best thing for a breakfast DJ, but it's not as simple as 'get to bed earlier'

...this is shaping up to be a proper child vs parent argument (getting a lovely perspective into what it would be like to be my mum)

[Yudster]

it's not cut and dry as to whether you get up automatically or not,

Its NEVER automatic, its a huge effort. But making that effort is a CHOICE. You can do it, or close your eyes. its THAT simple.

[chrysostom]

i think that's a gross oversimplification of the struggles to get out of bed - and much like many personal functions, varies in difficulty from person to person as to their ability to perform said function as opposed to being a choice.

having said that, being a student i'm welcome to roll out of bed whenever i want and frequently miss my personal 9.30am deadline to get up.

[Latina]

i think that's a gross oversimplification of the struggles to get out of bed - and much like many personal functions, varies in difficulty from person to person as to their ability to perform said function as opposed to being a choice.

And I think that's an excuse not to work harder to achieve it. Not to mention a bit of an insult to people who do.

EDIT: I'm starting to feel silly posting about this subject so seriously.

[Yudster]

I'm not saying that some people don't find it a lot more difficult than others. I'd put myself firmly in that category - I absolutely loathe getting out of bed in the morning, especially if its really early (like it was this morning). But it is still a choice. I know I need to get up and do certain things by a certain time. I can either do that, impossible though it might feel, or not. Its up to me, no one else. I know - like everyone else does - that if I close my eyes I'm in danger of falling asleep again and missing all my deadlines, so I don't close my eyes. Honestly chrysostom, the choice really is that simple. Its the action that's difficult, but that's just self regulation. We are supposed to be grown ups, isn't that our job?

[DevilsDuck]

I agree with Latina and Yuds.

Nobody likes getting up before they naturally wake, but you just do it if you need to.

I have been working in my current job for a year now and have only been late once through my own fault and a couple of times due to the bus *shakes fist*

Getting out of bed is most certainly a choice unless you have a mental/physical problem or are just damn lazy

[chrysostom]

Honestly chrysostom, the choice really is that simple. Its the action that's difficult, but that's just self regulation. We are supposed to be grown ups, isn't that our job?

I find the action so difficult, that sometimes i'm asleep without even realising it - and have had conversations whilst in the period of being woken up, and appeared conscious...but i have no recollection of it.

But i guess at the end of the day, given that i've no proper responsibility to get up for (and whilst we're at it, not ready to be a grown up) - i'll happily argue my corner even though i've not got really gone through a period which i've HAD to get up at a silly time

[Latina]

Am I the only one wakes up before the alarm (not like loads before but ten or so minutes) you feel more awake than when the alarm goes off? If I wake up before and forget to turn my alarm off, soon as it goes I will be struggling to stay awake.

Yes, I get that every so often. On one occasion I did get up then and it seemed to make the whole day better for me. Sleep is a strange thing.

[Boboff]

I am setting my Alarm early tommorow I do not want to miss any chat about Architecture.

All this crap, the guy sounded more miffed about Coconut than you bunch of wannabees.

Life is about choices, stay in bed, be late, or get up, talk about it, moan about it, it don't amount to a hill of beans I tells ya.

[John22]

Yeah, I get that charlalottie!