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By jamiec21
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wireman2004 wrote:i didn't think that you could record the red button streams from say sky plus. Virgin plus. And the freeview recorder.


You can't do it on Virgin, I know that from experience. Sky I'm not sure, but I'd imagine you could if you have a DVB-S card for the PC or on Freesat, if they are carrying the Red Button. There's no issue with Freeview, it's just another channel (no 301).

40gb for a hour stream is fairly big. I'm sure that is a mistake. You can get a decent torrent on normal dvd rip at 700mb and 2gb for a blue ray rip for a hour and a half film.

As a reference. You can get every episode ever of top gear in england, usa and australia at about 95gb. Thats a good 360 hours or so.
The 6 week aaa shows were about 800mb in length. So
A show in full. Go for 1.2gb per show as remember. The camera's are not switched off when the record is played. Times that by a possible 12 shows minimum. So look at about 15gb of memory.


No, I'm talking 40GB for the full 37 hours or however long it will be. This is without any additional compressing, I will have a copy of the raw MPEG2 stream that's broadcast via Freeview. The bitrate is around 1.25Mbps. I taped 10 hours of the Red Button content today and it came in at a bit over 13GB. So actually we're probably talking closer to 50GB, especially if they go for 40 hours. In regards to the Top Gear file sizes, I'd imagine they'd have been encoded using more efficient codecs than MPEG2, probably DivX or XVID. That would be possible with the Moyles show but as the MPEG2 bitrate is so low, I don't want to degrade the quality any further.

I'd still urge people to make their own recordings, whether it's from the webstream, or via television. I'd hate for my recording to go tits-up and to have no backup to download.
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By jamiec21
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neilt0 wrote:
richbrown wrote:Do we know how to access the flv stream or is it a case of screen recording?


FLV. Never do stream recording, it's a disaster.

Use http://www.streamtransport.com/ (free).


I take it this software doesn't time out after reaching 2GB like Replay Media Catcher did for me the other day. I'll give it a test run tomorrow on one of the BBC live channel, see what the results are like.
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By jamiec21
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bmstinton93 wrote:Do we know if it is going to carry on after 7 as I think they will at least go to 40 hours so it maybe worth recording it until the end of the Friday morning show


I was thinking of them going on until after the Friday show, but I don't really see the point. The record will have been and gone after 37 hours, doing a further 8 hours or so would be madness. They'd be better off getting to bed and with the BBC being H&S conscoious, I'm sure the official advise would not to go overboard, if 37 isn't already enough. I think the record is due to go during Mistajam's show at 7:30pm, his show is due to finish at 9, so that would take them through to 38.5 hours, I think that'd be enough for anyone. Either way, I'm sure I'll be watching the scheduled end at 7:30 live, so if there's mention of going on for longer, I can always extend my recording to that than into account.
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By jamiec21
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Lots of mad talk on air today about them possibly going through to the end of Friday's regular show at 10am, fuelled by Aled, but not totally ruled out by Chris and/or Dave. The Red Button feed has been reserved until then, so I guess this is when I should schedule my recording to finish. 50+ hours is insane, I still reckon they'll bail out at 9pm on Thursday.
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By jamiec21
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bmstinton93 wrote:There's no point ending any later than about half 9 i don't think as it would not be long until the Friday morning show then and they wouldn't get much sleep anyway


Speak for yourself. :D They'll have beds and a shower in Radio 1, so they'd be able to get a good, full night's sleep without having to get home and then back to Radio 1 for the Friday show. I'm split between being slighly concerned for their well-being to imagining how entertaining a regular show after 48 hours non-stop broadcasting would be. :)

I get the feeling Chris would like to do a show with Annie Nightingale, though, I'd imagine it'd be a career highlight for a radio geek like him.
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By Dreamxtreme
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I love you people :D I thought about recording the video whilst in the pub tonight but my CPU can't handle it (from trying to record the ON TOUR shows) but it seems (from what im reading) someone will just upload it so thanks :D I'll be watching most of it and then watch it in delay after a 5/6 hour kip
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By jamiec21
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Dreamxtreme wrote:I love you people :D I thought about recording the video whilst in the pub tonight but my CPU can't handle it (from trying to record the ON TOUR shows) but it seems (from what im reading) someone will just upload it so thanks :D I'll be watching most of it and then watch it in delay after a 5/6 hour kip


Recording is one thing, editing and uploading is another, especially if we're talking 8GB minimum if you're recording the webstream. I certainly won't be uploading much, and I'd imagine Radio 1 themselves will upload any stand-out highlights.
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By jamiec21
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I see there's going to be a simulcast trail on BBC1 just before the 9pm show on Wednesday night. That's something else I'll have to record for completiveness. 8)

Great to hear the full team are going to be in for the two-hour show at midnight. That will be essential viewing. :D
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By Travis Bickle
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Vernon Kay said on his show this morning that he thinks he is in with them 9-10pm on Thursday, so based on that they are planning on going for longer than the 37 hours and if they are still on at 10pm you would think they may as well stay on and do the Friday morning show as well.

That's assuming they are handling it well of course.
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By Aled
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Vern's got it wrong - he's in 9-10pm on Wednesday. He's involved with the more 'visual' show on the Wednesday.

btw the tv simulcasts are a definite: BBC1 Trail Wednesday evening at 9pm. BBC1 One Show 7-7:30 Thursday evening, and if they want it and are still going BBC1 Thursday evening at 9pm going into the Red Nose doc of the desert trek.

There are a couple of BBC3 live simulcast trails being discussed too but no guarantees if we can make it work technically.

We're also simulcasting on 1Xtra on Wed and Thurs eve 7-9pm and in discussion simulcasting on Radio 2 and Radio 5 for a small portion too.
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By Dreamxtreme
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o/ Aled That is all relevant and great information but you know as well as I do any proper Chris fan will be glued to the red button / Web like me

I'm making preparations for including a small fridge upstairs with plenty of snacks for the 37 hours , a bucket and scheduled power naps for when Chris takes his

Can't say im not dedicated :D
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By jamiec21
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Just completed a 30+ hour test run record of the Freeview Red Button stream. Went without a hitch, fortunately. 32 hours coming in at 36.5GB. Hopefully I'll be able to archive the whole thing to one Blu Ray disc as long as they don't go about 45 hours or so.

I'm certainly not going to be able to stick through the full show with Chris and Dave, but I'll definitely be catching the evening shows at 9 and Midnight live.
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By jamiec21
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reviloslater wrote:I will attempt to record the whole thing using stream transport, so thats another person in case something goes wrong.


I don't think I'll be recording from the webstream, my computer hasn't been in the best of health recently, has crashed about 15 times in the last couple of weeks but not in the last 3 or 4 days, fortunately. Touchwood it should be OK, but I'm not going to push it with 40 hours of continuous video and downloading.

Can't wait - 4 days to go!


Me neither. It's going to be a pretty unique couple of days broadcasting.
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By c_radical
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reviloslater wrote:I will attempt to record the whole thing using stream transport, so thats another person in case something goes wrong.


That's good to hear mate. I think that makes three of us now.
By wilester
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Hi everyone, long time lurker, first time poster. :)

I assume one of the most efficient ways of sharing this is through torrenting? Hopefully we can just get the one torrent link on here to maximise the speed for everyone.

Also, an idea would be to split the audio/video into their separate shows when creating a torrent, so we don't have to download all 10GBs worth before we can listen to any of it.

Just my two cents though :D
By wireman2004
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bmstinton93 wrote:But to get a torrent up to a high speed it will need a lot of seeders and I'm not sure there's enough of us



I see what your saying. i would seed for A month, and i have had upload speeds of 100kbs, and if everyone on here seeds for say a it for a month after the origional download.we should all get download speeds eventually. patience will be the key, it could be a week though before we finaly get too see it in full. but the upside.its on your computer for ever.

Don't forgetthe people who will download it and then just delete it. They will still seed parts back too people while downloading.
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By Dreamxtreme
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bmstinton93 wrote:But to get a torrent up to a high speed it will need a lot of seeders and I'm not sure there's enough of us


No you need fast seeders doesnt matter how many there are if 1 seeder (like me ) has a 1GB/sec server (which i do have)

So if anyone wants to start the torrent I'll put the gigabox on it and AS SOON as its with me it will be with everyone else :D
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