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By SAV1OUR
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Yes we knew it but I'm still shocked all the same, I really thought she was gonna come good eventually.

RIP
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By Johnny 1989
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Very sad news and rather tragic, much like Jimi Hendrix (who also died aged 27) didn't matter how much she tried she just could seem to get of the drugs.

Unfortunately a few people on Facebook haven't been sympathetic at all, one saying "good riddance", which is very easy to say if you don't know someone who suffers from a drug addiction.
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By Yudster
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Hmm. I feel sad for her family and the people who loved her and tried so hard to help her. But she didn't live her life as though she valued it very much, so it seems pointless for me to feel sad for her. She had a magnificent voice which she knew exactly how to use, and a team of people around her who gave her every opportunity to do marvellous things with her life. She chose otherwise, she chose to throw it away, right back in the faces of all the people who tried to make her happy. Yes, the whole thing is really sad, but the fact that she is dead? I can't pretend that for me its not more "oh really?" than "oh no".

Edit: - Actually the more I think about it, I do think its really sad. Poor thing. Poor woman. How awful to be so unhappy. I'm not sure if he meant it as a joke, or as an appropriately phrased comment on a terrible event, but Chris Harris just tweeted, and rather than "oh no" I want to say what he said -

No, no, no.
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By Ilovematt
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Such sad news of a young talented woman. Even tho most knew it was going to happen it is still such a shock.

Amy was boo'd off the stage a couple of weeks ago.. was this the beginning of the end ?

R I P x x x
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By Yudster
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Indeed, it isn't the first time she has been booed off a stage, that started happening on and off the year before last.

The last time I actually saw her perform was when she did Strictly Come Dancing with her niece, that was lovely, to see her there, obviously making a huge effort to showcase this talented kid and support her as she started her own career as a singer. It was a good performance, she didn't let her niece or herself down at all.

Edit: - Sorry, god daughter, not niece.
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By Boboff
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I think Murdoch is behind it, and that twat in Norway, what that man will do to get off the number one slot in the news is just amazing!
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By Yudster
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I love you boboff.
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By Nicola_Red
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Johnny 1989 wrote:Unfortunately a few people on Facebook haven't been sympathetic at all, one saying "good riddance", which is very easy to say if you don't know someone who suffers from a drug addiction.


I've seen comments like that too. People saying "oh well she was just a smackhead" as if that means her life wasn't important. My auntie, who lost her son, my cousin, when he was a teenager (and yesterday was the anniversary of his death), made a comment that people don't know pain until they have lost a child - and I suspect that's true, regardless of the cause of death.
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By Johnny 1989
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Nicola_Red wrote:
Johnny 1989 wrote:Unfortunately a few people on Facebook haven't been sympathetic at all, one saying "good riddance", which is very easy to say if you don't know someone who suffers from a drug addiction.


I've seen comments like that too. People saying "oh well she was just a smackhead" as if that means her life wasn't important. My auntie, who lost her son, my cousin, when he was a teenager (and yesterday was the anniversary of his death), made a comment that people don't know pain until they have lost a child - and I suspect that's true, regardless of the cause of death.


Absolutely, one of my Dad's friends is an alcoholic, has been most of his adult life & has tried so many times to kick drinking but just can't, the break up of his marriage was the thing that turned him mostly to drink and he never got over his wife leaving him. My Dad lost touch with him for a few years but finally got back in touch with him last year, unfortunately the years of alcohol abuse have taken their toll and sadly he is slowly dying, he can hardly walk now (and no that's not because he's intoxicated), he's also a smoker which is effecting his health, sad thing is now he's told my Dad he's just waiting to eventually die. My Dad was understandably very upset coming off the phone to him after that conversation.

It's easy to dismiss them as pissheads, smackheads, etc. but until you actually know someone who is addicted to drink or drugs then you don't really know why they got to the state their in, yeah it's easy to say that she's rich and famous so tough titties, but why does having money mean anything, no matter whether your rich or poor you can still get addicted to drink or drugs.
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By SAV1OUR
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Blake was a deadly attraction though, he dragged her into that sordid world, fame was enough for her to handle without that too. Gordon Smart I have very little time for but still..

"Those parasites, and I wish I had stronger words, who bought drugs on her behalf, smuggled her booze and brought her down - need to take a long hard look at themselves.
And her ex-husband Blake Fielder-Civil should hang his head in shame for the rest of his life for pulling her into the gutter of class A drug addiction."
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By MK Chris
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I thought Chris was spot on this morning in the opening link.
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By Munki Bhoy
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Shocked? No, this is possibly the least shocking death possible, short of the oldest person in the world dying. Saddened by it? Of course.

But... the overreaction to it has been a bit ridiculous if you ask me. I heard it said she was "the voice of a generation" and there's the "club 27" comments as well. Really? She had one big album five years ago. She had two albums in total!

I'm not disputing her talent - she wasn't really my cup of tea but I know full well how good she was - but as others have said... put it into perspective. It's a real shame that someone so talented wasn't able to fulfil the potential they had due to a horrible addiction they couldn't shake.
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By Yudster
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I think that's basically how I feel. I can't help being really sad though, even though I didn't know her so it seems silly.

Topher wrote:I thought Chris was spot on this morning in the opening link.


The only thing he said that I don't agree with is when he was saying that addiction is a disease - I understand why people use that term to describe it, but its not a disease, its far, far more complicated and difficult to understand and handle than that. And before any of you start on about how you shouldn't make comments when you haven't had experience, well I have so don't start.
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By Nicola_Red
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Yudster wrote:I think that's basically how I feel. I can't help being really sad though, even though I didn't know her so it seems silly.


Same here. I feel disproportionately affected by it. I think it's just a bad time of the month in my case tho :)
By bmstinton93
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I'm just listening to the opening link now and yes, Chris is spot on.

I don't get how they have now managed to say that there are no suspicious circumstances surrounding her death. She died at 27. Surely that's suspicious in itself
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By Ilovematt
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bmstinton93 wrote:No the beginning of the end happened ages ago


I know that, I am talking 'in the now' context. Maybe she didn't want to be here any more. Something we will never know.
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By Yudster
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bmstinton93 wrote:I'm just listening to the opening link now and yes, Chris is spot on.

I don't get how they have now managed to say that there are no suspicious circumstances surrounding her death. She died at 27. Surely that's suspicious in itself


When they say its "not suspicious" they mean that they aren't looking for anyone else to be involved, ie they don't suspect a crime.
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By Nicola_Red
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No, it isn't. Suicide was decriminalised in the UK in 1961.
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By Yudster
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bmstinton93 wrote:So does that mean it definitely wasn't suicide then? That's suspicious isn't it? Suicide is technically a crime


No it isn...oh.What Nic said.
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