[richbrown]

And once again we've fallen into talking about a team member's personal and financial affairs! *hides*

I think the show copes just fine without her. Except during the Pub Quiz I don't mind her when she is on the show though, although I wish she spoke more.

I like her input on the show, especially lately where she's opened up a bit more. I think the whole 'not missing her' thing is more to do with she is less on mic and less chatty than Chris, Dave and Dom. One of the last few mornings Aled didn't talk for a good portion of time and yet it wasn't a case of not missing him, it was just he was probably busy, which Tina may be with the bulletins or less chatty. It certainly doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. If anything I'd say it's a sign that there should be more from her, not less and hopefully once they change the mic situation that Aled mentioned (if they already haven't) we will hear more from her.

Also, I really don't think it's fair to be comparing her to Carrie as easy as it is to do so. She's not Carrie, Carrie has moved on so we should too.

[the sniper]

And once again we've fallen into talking about a team member's personal and financial affairs! *hides*

Unlike the Dave and Jayne subject, I haven't said anything that hasn't been talked about on the show. Even Chris has commented on how wealthy Tina and her family must be.

[richbrown]

And once again we've fallen into talking about a team member's personal and financial affairs! *hides*

Unlike the Dave and Jayne subject, I haven't said anything that hasn't been talked about on the show. Even Chris has commented on how wealthy Tina and her family must be.

It's still none of your business and are making sweeping statements about someone you don't know.

[the sniper]

And once again we've fallen into talking about a team member's personal and financial affairs! *hides*

Unlike the Dave and Jayne subject, I haven't said anything that hasn't been talked about on the show. Even Chris has commented on how wealthy Tina and her family must be.

It's still none of your business and are making sweeping statements about someone you don't know.

Oh well...

Some members of this forum are obviously now so afraid of upsetting the team that even subjects discussed on the show can't be discussed here. Oh how I long for the days when this forum didn't care what the team made of it, for now it appears that sycophants and friends of the show have taken over the policing of CM.net.

[kel]

I don't think Aled is any more talkative than Rachel was.

Are you serious?! I know Aled has some big fans on here, but come on. I'd be surprised if most people on here don't agree.

That said, maybe it's because he winds me up that I notice when he is talking, and then I'm trying to tell whether it's going to be worthwhile me fast forward past it.

In terms of the show being brilliantly produced, the show has arguably the very best and tightest team in British radio of Chris, Dave and Dom. A koala could make them sound good. The Saturday show was amazing, and they've often said no-one did any work for it. Working hard doesn't necessarily make good radio, as the toughest challenges in the world week thing proved.

Anyway, overall, my conclusion is that the next team challenge should be that Aled doesn't talk on air for six months, and then after that period we see how well Tina's doing. I think this is a fair and proportionate compromise. And also, more Freya, please. And Rhys. And more Matt on piano. And less Aled.

[richbrown]

Some members of this forum are obviously now so afraid of upsetting the team that even subjects discussed on the show can't be discussed here. Oh how I long for the days when this forum didn't care what the team made of it, for now it appears that sycophants and friends of the show have taken over the policing of CM.net.

Haha! Far from it. It's a place to express opinion and I would hate to think that anyone feels they couldn't do that in fear of upsetting another forum member or someone from the show. I feel uncomfortable when I read people talking so glibly about team members in that way because I know that they read them and it isn't nice. It doesn't mean it should be outlawed but in just as much as you are allowed to post that opinion I can post mine saying I think it's not fair.

If you think I'm sycophantic more fool you. When there's criticism to be made, I'll make it; when there's just rude comments being made for the sake of it I'd rather stay out.

[slaphead1982]

I, Like alot of people on here, never really noticed that she was'nt there. I'm not being rude but she is very quiet. I would like to hear her more but joining in more not just in the features. I'm quiet aswell but I don't want to hear somebody, anybody, on the radio who is there to entertain just sit in the background.

[Yudster]

I don't think Aled is any more talkative than Rachel was.

Are you serious?!

Yes, I'm serious! I genuinely don't remember Rachel having any less input than Aled does, in fact what I remember is that she used to get moaned about (on here, although I was/am a big fan) and moaned at so often it seemed to me she must be a particularly major contributor!

Its all to do with perception though isn't it? I have no idea what the result would be if you did an analysis of the verbal on-air input each made to the show, you might well be right in your assessment that Aled is more often on - but the point is that to you, it seems he has too much input, to me, it seems fine. I imagine that this is probably more to do with our own opinions of Aled's personality as it is the actual amount he talks. You perceive him as being ego-driven and self promoting, so when he speaks on air you impute those motivations to him and it annoys you. I don't see him that way, I believe he is a serious producer committed to putting out the best show possible so I don't find his input annoying or too much.

I haven't met him, so I have no idea if my opinion of him or yours is closer to reality.

[DarroM]

I just don't get that it would be because she is focusing on the bulletins because they're the same sport stories read throughout the show and nothing changes except for the audio and a few words here and there but there is two versions of each story or something and nothing more. Sometimes the guys are talking about a subject that she probably has clearly no interest in and therefore can't really particiipate hence the lack of involvement.

Seems a few people aren't really fussed on Tina judging from the feedback. I personally like her but I do have to agree though that she could be a bit more active at times since during some of the better parts, she is either quiet or laughing her head off, which I find funny nonetheless. dreamer mentioned about Tina's Summer of Sport being a forced feature just to have her on the show more and I have to agree since I just feel it is kind of pointless especially with the cricket one last week.

[G-Sizzle]

And once again we've fallen into talking about a team member's personal and financial affairs! *hides*

Why shouldn't we talk about it? Just because Aled is an egomaniac who reads everything about himself and his colleagues?

These people live their lives on the radio, telling us things like what they're having for breakfast etc. Aren't we allowed an opinion on them and elaborate as to why we've formed that opinion?

We're fans of these people and enjoy discussing them. It's no different to us commenting on football players lives.

[neilt0]

Aaaarggghh!!! Aled is reading it right now!!!

[Nicola_Red]

I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that Tina is from a well-off family when it's been mentioned on air. It's certainly not against any forum rules, and people can decide for themselves whether they feel comfortable participating in the discussion.

Personally, I do think that Tina's upbringing comes across on air to an extent and it contrasts with Chris, Dave and Aled - but I don't feel like that stops her being a valuable team member. Nothing wrong with a bit of contrast. It certainly doesn't sound to me like she is having trouble fitting in - she is a bit quieter than the others, but there ya go. I also didn't like the Summer of Sport thing, but then I have no interest in sport so that might be why

And by the way G-Sizzle, you are double posting everything...

[neilt0]

Personally, I do think that Tina's upbringing comes across on air to an extent and it contrasts with Chris, Dave and Aled

Dave was born in Hong Kong, went to a private school (I believe) and to university. He may not be the Monopoly dude , but I don't think his Dad was a postman...

[Nicola_Red]

Yeah, I actually hesitated before writing "and Dave" for those reasons. But then I'm from a very similar background to Chris and I went to uni. I was the first in my family to do so. I still consider myself very much working-class.

[the sniper]

Personally, I do think that Tina's upbringing comes across on air to an extent and it contrasts with Chris, Dave and Aled

Dave was born in Hong Kong, went to a private school (I believe) and to university. He may not be the Monopoly dude , but I don't think his Dad was a postman...

Though we're now straying into dangerous waters, as Dave hasn't really ever said much about his upbringing on the show, Dave being born in Hong Kong isn't indicative of him being from a wealthy background at all. Until 'the great Chinese takeaway', there was quiet a large number of Forces staff (mainly Navy), Military clerical staff and people in intelligence based roles (not James Bond stuff, but roles undertaken by GCHQ employees) based in Hong Kong. There are also of course many British companies with offices in Hong Kong.

Private schools also aren't uncommon in Hong Kong. I can't say that I've ever heard anything about Dave going to a Private school, but do you know if it was a Private school for English speaking children of US and British people working or serving in Hong Kong? And as Nicola says, going to Uni doesn't say anything wealth or background at all.

[neilt0]

Though we're now straying into dangerous waters, as Dave hasn't really ever said much about his upbringing on the show, Dave being born in Hong Kong isn't indicative of him being from a wealthy background at all. Until 'the great Chinese takeaway', there was quiet a large number of Forces staff (mainly Navy), Military clerical staff and people in intelligence based roles (not James Bond stuff, but roles undertaken by GCHQ employees) based in Hong Kong. There are also of course many British companies with offices in Hong Kong.

Private schools also aren't uncommon in Hong Kong. I can't say that I've ever heard anything about Dave going to a Private school, but do you know if it was a Private school for English speaking children of US and British people working or serving in Hong Kong? And as Nicola says, going to Uni doesn't say anything wealth or background at all.

http://www.bedfordschool.org.uk/foundation/?news=1626
Currently, it would cost you £10,300 per term to attend this school. The web site says he was there from 1985-1992. Fees today for that period would come to as much as £329,600.

This reticence to discuss public information is getting ridiculous.

The team discuss what's happening in their private lives for 2 hours a day. I agree it can be potentially offensive to some in speculating on other "private" stuff, but it's the price you pay for opening yourself up to the public on the show.

Most of us are fairly respectful of the team members and rarely is there any serious criticism of anything going on in their "private" life.

[neilt0]

I reckon if Dave ever sees this thread he'll be laughing his head off!

Why?

[neilt0]

I reckon if Dave ever sees this thread he'll be laughing his head off!

Why?

Because of the way you're all probing into his life!

What probing? It's public information. Most of it comes from: http://chrismoyles.net/teamdave.shtml

Also, "Where the thread goes, nobody knows!"

[Nicola_Red]

What on earth any of this has to do with Tina I've no idea

It's reasonably relevant (for this forum!) to whether Tina fits in with the rest of the team and why/why not.

[the sniper]

http://www.bedfordschool.org.uk/foundation/?news=1626
Currently, it would cost you £10,300 per term to attend this school. The web site says he was there from 1985-1992. Fees today for that period would come to as much as £329,600.

Fair enough. Still, I've never got the impression from the show that he's had an especially spoiled upbringing. It certainly appears he's had a good education, but that doesn't mean that he's had his lifestyle paid for beyond that. Who knows...

[Yudster]

If I'm told he had an expensive education I'll believe it, but given the evidence he presents on the show, it was a bit of a waste of money...

[McGuinness-89]

Even if you incorporate the knowledge that Dave knows that baguette is french for bread and petite is french for small?