[chrisjames]

Dan Wooton has written an article claiming that there is a growing 'revolt' against Chris Moyles being ofered a new job at the BBC. Probably complete rubbish but here it is anyway if you want to read it .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... l?ITO=1490

[The Deadly]

I don't want to see negative article about Chris. Like Aled said just ignore the Daily Mail.

[swaddon1903]

Isn't Wootton the clown who Chris had a Twitter fight with a couple of months back?

If you don't want to read it, then I don't blame you. Suffice to say the words 'loudmouth' and 'controversial' feature in the 'article'. "Moyles is simply not a correct fit [for Radio 2]" says a made-up source, "we're doing fine without him".

[Dexy]

"His most recent contract ties him in until 2014, while all his TV projects to date, including a recent dating show on Sky Living, have been spectacular flops in the ratings."

I thought Quiz Night did fairly well? And I never saw any of Love Machine but the fact it's getting a second series shows it can't have been a "spectacular" flop. But yay for hyperbole!

[SHPanda]

Hi guys,

New to the forums, but Chris' leaving announcement brought me here, I can't face a weekday morning without him, or in fact the radio.

Any who, onto something I heard today that was a rather good hint.

On the show today, the team were talking and Dave mentioned this would be one of the last times you would be hearing from them, and Chris then repeated it saying this will be one of the last times you'll hear this from us. Chris then corrected himself and said "in the mornings"

Seemed like a massive hint to me that a daytime show is definitely on the cards, I think Radio 1 is most likely, but if 5 Live or Radio 2 are his new home then so be it, I just hope we don't lose the team, I enjoy the banter from Dom and Dave also. I'd like them to retain Aled and Tina, but it would be the other two I'd miss the most.

I'll try and find timings on iPlayer of the comment if I get chance.

[hdsport82]

I thought Quiz Night did fairly well? And I never saw any of Love Machine but the fact it's getting a second series shows it can't have been a "spectacular" flop. But yay for hyperbole!

Re. Love Machine I haven't seen ratings for the whole series but I do remember seeing that the first episode got half the ratings of the show that was in the same slot the week before (a repeat of a cheap fly on the doc) so I don't think it can be regarded a roaring success either.

[Travis Bickle]

On the show today, the team were talking and Dave mentioned this would be one of the last times you would be hearing from them, and Chris then repeated it saying this will be one of the last times you'll hear this from us. Chris then corrected himself and said "in the mornings"

I'll try and find timings on iPlayer of the comment if I get chance.

Just heard that. It was straight after the 7am news and was referring to it being one of the last times we would hear from them on Fridays. Dave wasn't involved in the conversation, but the way Chris did indeed add on "in the mornings" did seem quite deliberate I must admit.

I don't agree that it implies a future daytime show though, but it does indicate there will be a show on Fridays. Or it could be that we are reading something into nothing!

[The Deadly]

I'm not a fan of all the cloak and daggers stuff. Radio 1 should be straight with the fans of the show and tell us what's happening next even if it is nothing at all.

[chrysostom]

It's likely that nothing is finalised, therefore right now there's nothing concrete to say.

The private negotiations are none of our business until they are concrete, otherwise it's speculation for the sake of speculation - which no company needs.

[SHPanda]

Speculation is something every company needs, it drives word of mouth and therefore interest in that company, so it'll play into BBC's hands with regards to listener numbers as people tune in/visit the news site in anticipation of an announcement.

If they didn't want speculation, they wouldn't have announced Chris' departure from the Breakfast show until they could announce his next move/they already know his next move and they would have announced them together. Although in all likelihood I'd take a guess at them already knowing Chris' future, it would be non-sensical to leave it this late, these sort of things are planned well in advance.

Speculation is only really a negative (in this sort of instance) for the fans as it causes frustration in waiting for confirmation.

[chrysostom]

Good point, but is it professional for the BBC or its employees to openly drive that speculation through official channels, especially when this may affect someone else's Radio 1 slot (and career).

The 'cloak and dagger stuff' is the only feasible way to try and get info out about unconfirmed matters, and should be dealt with sensitively.

[ChrisBoyles]

I'm not a fan of all the cloak and daggers stuff. Radio 1 should be straight with the fans of the show and tell us what's happening next even if it is nothing at all.

An announcement will be made when they're on vacation, obviously to avoid any on air comment and distraction, while they wrap up their breakfast show.

I don't trust the article, it hasn't appeared in any other publications AFAIK.

The '80's show' has been flung about. I think: weekend show for Moyles (+ Dave), til 2014, while doing a radio 2 slot (possibly an 80's show) - this will help bring him to the attention of 2 main groups of listener, within the BBC Umbrella. Controllers like to this gentle reacquaintance / rehabilitation (see Evans' meteoric reprise)

Let's face it, he can't sing or act, and his not a natural born TV host/presenter.

He was born a virtuoso radio DJ, and that is where 80% of his time will lie for the forseable future.

Ditching most his team, apart, maybe, for Dave, will help the shackle casting/'reinvention' process, especially that 5Live/R2 don't often use the Zoo-formating.

[chrisjames]

we have to remember that it won't just be the breakfast show and 10pm show that wil be changing hands. There will almost certainly be a reshuffl e of the daytime line up ,for example I thhink DEv will probably be moved from earlys and Vernon and Sara might be moved, so there needs to be contract negotiations with several presenters before it's all sorted out.

[The Deadly]

Why would there be a reshuffle during the day??? Greg James just got the drive time slot and Scott Mills just got moved to 1pm. You know nothing about everything!

[wireman2004]

we have to remember that it won't just be the breakfast show and 10pm show that wil be changing hands. There will almost certainly be a reshuffl e of the daytime line up ,for example I thhink DEv will probably be moved from earlys and Vernon and Sara might be moved, so there needs to be contract negotiations with several presenters before it's all sorted out.

Is this just speculation again. Where will dev go? If the talk is that chris.is going onto.grimmys slot. That's taken.
Other positions.
Greg has just moved to.drive. so that's out the question. fern is target audience in the bbcs eyes. Or they wouldn't of moved jo.
Scott is secure in the 1-4 slot. His contract is for that slot. For the next 2 years.

Face it. You don't know what's going to happen in the radio 1 schedule. that is Ben. Rhys. The exec producers including Rachael. And maybe the presenters involved and their producers. (which you would assume would not be allowed to talk about it.) Hasn't aled mentioned you shouldn't be putting rumors round. Which is what it boils down too.

[chrisjames]

well there has to be a reshuffle if Chris is going to be moved to another daytime slot

[The Deadly]

He won't be moved to a daytime slot due to there being no daytime slots to take. Do the maths!

[SHPanda]

I'm wanting to put forward an argument that a weekday daytime slot for Chris would still be possible after the Breakfast show ends. I can see him doing the 1-4pm slot... Not replacing Scott Mills... but joining him!

What better a plan than to put the two flagship DJs of what will be the previous era together on one show. It'll work perfectly for the BBC, it limits the "older DJs" to just the one daily slot and not two, and it's the one real daytime slot that will be least listened to by younger audiences as they can't listen whilst in school. It also means Moyles' "older audience appeal" won't put off as many younger listeners as Mills who the BBC still clearly see as having a younger attraction to an extent would still draw them in.

The Hackney Weekend show worked brilliantly, and could have been a bit of a test session for the bosses, and personally I'd like to see the two together. Finally it would still be a re-invention for Moyles as he'd be an equal co-host, not the single key focus (which he is now even in zoo format).

The more I think about this the more I pray my idea is right.

[chrisjames]

He won't be moved to a daytime slot due to there being no daytime slots to take. Do the maths!

If Huw Stephens replaces Nick at 10pm then Chris could take over the weekend 1-4 slot or Sara and Vernon could be moved there with Chris taking over the 10am-1pm slot. That makes perfect sense

[chrisjames]

I'm wanting to put forward an argument that a weekday daytime slot for Chris would still be possible after the Breakfast show ends. I can see him doing the 1-4pm slot... Not replacing Scott Mills... but joining him!

What better a plan than to put the two flagship DJs of what will be the previous era together on one show. It'll work perfectly for the BBC, it limits the "older DJs" to just the one daily slot and not two, and it's the one real daytime slot that will be least listened to by younger audiences as they can't listen whilst in school. It also means Moyles' "older audience appeal" won't put off as many younger listeners as Mills who the BBC still clearly see as having a younger attraction to an extent would still draw them in.

The Hackney Weekend show worked brilliantly, and could have been a bit of a test session for the bosses, and personally I'd like to see the two together. Finally it would still be a re-invention for Moyles as he'd be an equal co-host, not the single key focus (which he is now even in zoo format).

The more I think about this the more I pray my idea is right.

I doubt it.Scott likes working with his team.Chris and Scott are too big a personality in their own right to work together.It's OK as the occasional one off such as Hackney but they'd never agree to work together full time

[The Deadly]

Can you provide any quotes or evidence to back up your theory? Have you spoken to Scott Mills to verify that they'd "never work together"? Why are you still doing this? What is your goal?

[chrysostom]

He's right to be fair. Every member in here speculates about things to some extent, there's no point in picking on chrisjames for doing it, and demanding he post sources just because you don't like him.

Given your heavy attacks on CJ EVERY time he posts, I think it's fair to ask what your goal is?

[The Deadly]

He isn't speculating he is speaking for people. Giving opinions is something we all do and should be encouraged but he takes it to the point of reporting his opinions as facts. I don't like it and neither do lots of other people.

I haven't "heavily attacked" him at all. Asking for some sort of evidence for all the crap he posts isn't an attack it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say to someone. If I was attacking him then he'd know about it. I'm not sure what it has to do with you in all honesty. If you think you can intimidate me then you're sadly mistaken. You tried it a little while back and it's really not going to work.

[chrysostom]

...I was just suggesting that you lay off criticising every one of chrisjames' posts. It's boring, isn't really constructive, and has been highlighted by other users as bordering on bullying. By putting CJ on my ignore list, I don't get annoyed by his posts. I don't spend my days replying to his every post and telling him where he went wrong. I once asked if he qualified for a temporary ban and got put in my place for trying to
unnecessarily govern an area of the board where I have no right to hold any influence.

Clearly I was trying to intimidate you though, I'm devastated that it hasn't worked. Can you back up these allegations with fact? Was this when I opposed your opinion that 'Middle aged women should wear potato sacks' and you accused me of pandering to women?

[bmstinton93]

Where the * has all the sense of humour gone on this site? All I see lately is long essays of people arguing with each other.