[steve leady]

it does have a point tho... What radio station is for trendy 30-somethinks who prefer Rizzle Kicks to Annie Lennox, yet don't want everything to be based around exams and dealing with spots...?

30 something?? How about 40 somethings that haven't grown old (up) before their time??

[steve leady]

I've come to hate the title of this thread. It's like a whiny ex trying to persuade you to go back to them. "B-but...you don't want me anymore?!..."

Truth is... Radio 1 have played this, "we're targeting a new, younger audience" several times over. They don't get the message. Pop music is still relatively new really, and they don't get the idea that people who liked pop music 30 years ago in the early 80's still like pop music now. The last time they tried to pull this trick they tried to convince people 'of my age' that we should bugger off to Radio 2. But at the time Radio 2 was playing Elvis, the Beatles and all manner of other 60's crap. They don't get it. Give me Radio 6 on FM and they can get rid of me. Maybe.

Sometimes I don't think you ever wanted me Nicola x

[The Deadly]

Sir!!!! The 60's were awesome for music, possibly the best period.

[steve leady]

Sir!!!! The 60's were awesome for music, possibly the best period.

Sir, I respect your view and whilst I agree that some of it was ok. An awful lot was total garbage. The same is true of every era.

[Yudster]

Steve Leady is an intelligent and insightful man. In other words, I agree with him.

[ianpwilliams]

If you don't like iTunes, you don't have to use it. A podcast feed is just an RSS feed with MP3 attachments.
Podcasts don't have DRM. Apple don't supply podcasts, all podcasts come from the publisher of that podcast's own server.
Here's a trick that often works for any podcast. Search for:

Code: Select all"ten minute podcast" feedburner OR "rss feed"

That'll get you to: http://tenminutepodcast.com/feed/podcast/

And that's the direct feed. You can download the MP3s directly from the feed, or with something like DownThemAll or another podcatcher.

Enjoy, enjoy! Mazel Tov! etc.

Is there a podcatcher for Windows that you would recommend? I was going to stick with iTunes, but once I moved the podcasts to a different folder and/or wanted to rename them (like numbering them so I could listen to them in order), iTunes decided that it couldn't work out what was going on, and listed every instance of each podcast episode twice, while at the same time not being able to find the original file for either instance of each episode, despite there being one in the correct iTunes folder.

So I'm looking for a small, simple, non CPU-eating podcatcher that I can leave running in the background all the time, and that will automatically download each new podcast episode for me, or at least alert me that there is a new one available. Having iTunes running in the background is simply not an option for me, as it seems to be constantly wanting to do things, eating up the CPU.

[neilt0]

I used to fight iTunes like you, but as I have two fruit-based MP3 players, I now use it as it was intended. I ended up cleaning everything out and starting again.
Now I just plug in the fruits and it does all the work. I never have it running in the background. Pod downloads are quick for me, so I just start it once a day.

Some people do everything on their phones -- that's how most people use 3rd party pod apps, I think.

[ianpwilliams]

But I find too many problems with iTunes, like:

1 - No "download all" button to download all episodes of a podcast

2 - Although there is an option to rename a podcast in iTunes, that doesn't seem to rename the file as well. And if you rename the file, iTunes seems to think it's gone missing

3 - Then there's this I've read about - "I've naturally been using iTunes as my podcasting program. It works pretty well, except for one huge problem: if it determines that I haven't been listening to podcasts for a while it stops downloading them. Is there any way to force iTunes to continue downloading podcasts regardless of how often I listen to them?"

These are three problems that shouldn't be. And I'm sure there are others too. Otherwise I would consider using it.

I do have a fruit-based mp3 player myself too. But I don't want iTunes to dictate what happens when I connect it. That's what annoys me about it. It's the only program I know of that wants to have all the control, as opposed to giving the user the control like other programs.

[neilt0]

I have found none of these to be a problem.

1. "Get all"

2. Right click, Get Info.
ETA: You can rename the files, delete them from iTunes and then drag them all back in. I've done this in the past.

3. Never happened to me. Try "Refresh".

Also, you have fine-grained control of what stuff gets synced to the pod. I only sync about 1/2 my podcasts, for example.

[ianpwilliams]

Weird, I can't find a "Get all" button anywhere. But having just checked, I haven't quite got the latest version, I'll update now.

I forgot that you can drag files into iTunes. In that case, I'll drag all my podcast folders into the iTunes podcast folder, and then drag them all into iTunes and see what happens. Not sure if it will organise them into different podcasts or not like it does when you download them though.

Is there anywhere I can see which podcasts I have subscribed to? I have subscribed to four of them, but I'd like to confirm it.

[neilt0]

Weird, I can't find a "Get all" button anywhere. But having just checked, I haven't quite got the latest version, I'll update now.

I forgot that you can drag files into iTunes. In that case, I'll drag all my podcast folders into the iTunes podcast folder, and then drag them all into iTunes and see what happens. Not sure if it will organise them into different podcasts or not like it does when you download them though.

Is there anywhere I can see which podcasts I have subscribed to? I have subscribed to four of them, but I'd like to confirm it.

Get All:



I actually drag your TCMS edits in to iTunes, select multiple files, right click, Get Info and change 3 of the fields (like Album) to "ianpwilliams The Chris Moyles Show", add artwork and change the boxes "Podcast" and "Remember Playback Position".
It's quicker than it sounds.
Then I sync the fruit-based devices (you can do two at once) and I have every show I listen to, including your edits, act like it's a podcast. There's nothing that special about podcasts, they're just MP3s.

You can see what podcasts you have subbed to by collapsing the pod (see grab above).

[neilt0]

ianp, here's how I turn your edits in to delicious tasty podcasts!





et VOILA!

[ianpwilliams]

Ok, I was looking for the "Get All" button on the iTunes Store, not in the library.

I tried copying my "Ten Minute Podcast" podcasts into the "Automatically Copy into iTunes" folder, which created a Podcasts folder in the iTunes media folder. But because I renamed the files to include numbers at the beginning so I can listen to them in order, iTunes didn't recognise them. So when I click "Subscribe", it creates a duplicate of most (not all) of the podcast episodes. I'm guessing I could just delete those non-entry ones. But then surely each time it updated the podcast, it would keep asking me. And I don't fancy re-downloading 15GB of podcasts just to keep iTunes happy. If I can find a way of moving the podcasts into the iTunes Podcasts folder, and have iTunes realise what they are, and then I can be subscribed to the them all and download each new one automatically, then I would consider switching to my iPod to listen to the podcasts (and Moyles).

[neilt0]

Ok, I was looking for the "Get All" button on the iTunes Store, not in the library.

I tried copying my "Ten Minute Podcast" podcasts into the "Automatically Copy into iTunes" folder, which created a Podcasts folder in the iTunes media folder. But because I renamed the files to include numbers at the beginning so I can listen to them in order

You're just making life harder for yourself! Download podcasts in iTunes and make a Smart Playlist, then sort it by Release Date. Include that playlist in the sync items on your fruity player.

[ianpwilliams]

Maybe. I'll try downloading all 15GB of podcasts again then...can't believe I can't just rename them though for iTunes to recognise them. And whenever I try to sync my iPod with iTunes, iTunes just gets stuck trying to transfer my apps. I know my PC is old, but iTunes shouldn't freeze it. I just hope I can find a way to sync my iPod with iTunes selectively.

[neilt0]

Maybe. I'll try downloading all 15GB of podcasts again then...can't believe I can't just rename them though for iTunes to recognise them. And whenever I try to sync my iPod with iTunes, iTunes just gets stuck trying to transfer my apps. I know my PC is old, but iTunes shouldn't freeze it. I just hope I can find a way to sync my iPod with iTunes selectively.

I sync my iPod Touch (2007) and my iPod Nano (2006) with my old laptop (2005), doing both simultaneously. No fancy hardware here! Click on the name of your iPod in the left pane to manage your sync. Turn on "Manage music manually" first. PM me if you need more help, as I feel I'm filling this thread with crap...

[ianpwilliams]

Yeah you're right about the thread...PM might be coming your way

[northernsteve]

the Beeb are missing a trick here. Launch a new, digital/online only station that targets 24-44 demographic. Transfer the Moyles show lock, stock and barrell to that and put Grimmy on Radio 1.

That new station has a mix of unique shows but also simulcasts Radio 1 and Radio 2 for programmes that have a crossover appeal. People like Jo Whiley, Dermot O'Leary, Coxy and Zane. Maybe play out some old sessions or complete John Peel shows.

In doing that, they have banished us old gits from Radio 1 and got their average listening figures down, provided a service for an underserved group, and increased sales of digital radios.

The thing about the BBC Trust wanting to leave the 30 somethings for commercial radio would be fair enough if the commercial sector would provide some imaginative programmes rather than the formulaic, voicetracked crap they churn out most of the time.

[chrysostom]

At 24, I'm worried I'll lose track of modern music. I'm not big into the music scene, but knowing what is popular on Radio 1 at least keeps me informed, as I do like a lot of modern popular music. I won't be listening to Grimmy on iplayer - so i'll have to start listening live throughout the day more

[DaveBedford]

I am somewhat used to r2 or r4 in the mornings at least (when I am not working), because that's where I go at the end of the show. I switch to r4 at 10.30 (good for news and current affairs) then move to r2 for Jeremy Vine and Steve Wright.

I don't mind losing touch with chart music tbh. Never thought I would say that. I will still listen to to Pete Tong and Annie Nightingale. So I will still listen to r1 for them.

[Sidders]

the Beeb are missing a trick here. Launch a new, digital/online only station that targets 24-44 demographic. Transfer the Moyles show lock, stock and barrell to that and put Grimmy on Radio 1.

That new station has a mix of unique shows but also simulcasts Radio 1 and Radio 2 for programmes that have a crossover appeal. People like Jo Whiley, Dermot O'Leary, Coxy and Zane. Maybe play out some old sessions or complete John Peel shows..

I agree with this principal, but why do it digital/online only? Most people listen in their car where they have FM only.

[mcmahonman]

You may not like what Commercial Radio is putting out for you but it's not up to the BBC to produce something for you.

[dimtimjim]

Really? I'm pretty sure the BBC trust will disagree with you there.

That is the WHOLE point to making paying a Licence fee a legal requirement instead of a choice. You HAVE to pay it, the LEAST we/you/anyone can expect is programme production aimed at us/you/them.

[mcmahonman]

encouraging an appropriate degree of competition in the provision of radio
programmes and of material to be included in online services; and

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/fi ... report.pdf

Targeting the only demographic that BBC doesn't broadcast for would kill the competition dead and would be against the BBC trust.

[dimtimjim]

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