[jonallen1983]

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[user posted a fake news report from a year's time stating that Chris was to return to Radio 1 after the ratings had dropped. He then deleted it.]

[MK Chris]

I couldn't.

[Nicola_Red]

Me neither.

[The Deadly]

Never going to happen. If they ever got to the point where they had nobody to do a breakfast show for them and asked Chris he should tell them to stick it. To not let him do the 10 years he wanted to do after delivering the ratings he did is an absolute disgrace.

I'll stop because today isn't about Ben Cooper or Radio 1 management it's about the show and its listeners.

[Nicola_Red]

Edited. Tsk.

[bmstinton93]

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Why edit it?

[wireman2004]

Never going to happen. If they ever got to the point where they had nobody to do a breakfast show for them and asked Chris he should tell them to stick it. To not let him do the 10 years he wanted to do after delivering the ratings he did is an absolute disgrace.

I'll stop because today isn't about Ben Cooper or Radio 1 management it's about the show and its listeners.

What I don't think has been answered. Was chris pushed or did he jump.

Seems from what I can make out is chris decided to move on on his own accord. Not pushed. And he wanted to go out on HIS terms.

When I heard the decision to put Ben cooper as controller. I thought great. Chris is a guarentee to stay on breakfast till 2014. His old producer. And a friend. Plus all the noises were made to tell us chris wasn't going anywhere. Especially when Ben cooper mixed the schedule up almost immediately.

[The Deadly]

Definitely pushed in my opinion. The things said in the last week have confirmed that.

[postmoylesdepression]

This is what I would love to know. I'd be very surprised if Chris wasn't thinking of a decade on the breakfast show when he signed his new contract last year, so what happened?

I read that Chris wanted to take the show with him when he was touring with Jesus Christ Superstar, and that when the BBC wouldn't let him as it would be seen as promotion for the tour, there was some sort of fall out. No idea if that was true though, and I'm new around here.

[neilt0]

This is what I would love to know. I'd be very surprised if Chris wasn't thinking of a decade on the breakfast show when he signed his new contract last year, so what happened?

Chris had said that publicly -- he signed on until 2014 so he could do the 10 years. That was his goal. Then Big Boss Ben pissed in his cornflakes.

[j10cool10]

I think he was definitely pushed.

Like others have said, I think its so sad that Radio 1 wouldn't let him do just the next 1 year and 4 months to get to the 10 years he wanted to do.

But, I suppose Big Boss Ben had to do something or he'd have been fired by the BBC Trust or whatever. I thought the Scott and Greg swap was a move to try and get more younger listeners..but they didn't even wait to see the effect that had on listening figures before changing the breakfast show.

[Turicum]

This is purely my opinion and not based in anything I've heard/read or any news stories: I can see Ben calling Chris into his office because the numbers weren't good and instead of discussing/fighting over it Chris agreed to let it go and call it quit.

[The Deadly]

The whole "did he quit or was he pushed" debate is over. Listen to Chris' words and it tells you all you need to know.

[neilt0]

This is purely my opinion and not based in anything I've heard/read or any news stories: I can see Ben calling Chris into his office because the numbers weren't good and instead of discussing/fighting over it Chris agreed to let it go and call it quit.

No way.

I'm sure there were discussions about show content, hence Chris dropping not-too-subtle references to "It's not all about me!" and "I love music!" in to the show. I bet they were direct quotes from Big Boss Ben.

I can't imagine any carpettings about overall show numbers. Only newspapers seem to care about RAJAR, and Chris' numbers have always been good. Whether it's 7, 8 or 9 million, that's still an excellent audience.

As has been stated many times before, the Beeb (or the Trust) only seem to care about the age of the audience, which is ridiculous -- not because they're ignoring the overall numbers, but it's ridiculous because who cares if older people listen as long as enough young people do.
That's what gets me. If 50% of teens listen to Chris, who cares if the older listeners do as well?
You clearly already have the youth audience. That should be enough, but for the BBC Trust, it isn't, they must also drive away the older listeners. IDIOTS!

[Travis Bickle]

This is purely my opinion and not based in anything I've heard/read or any news stories: I can see Ben calling Chris into his office because the numbers weren't good and instead of discussing/fighting over it Chris agreed to let it go and call it quit.

No way.

I'm sure there were discussions about show content, hence Chris dropping not-too-subtle references to "It's not all about me!" and "I love music!" in to the show. I bet they were direct quotes from Big Boss Ben.

I can't imagine any carpettings about overall show numbers. Only newspapers seem to care about RAJAR, and Chris' numbers have always been good. Whether it's 7, 8 or 9 million, that's still an excellent audience.

As has been stated many times before, the Beeb (or the Trust) only seem to care about the age of the audience, which is ridiculous -- not because they're ignoring the overall numbers, but it's ridiculous because who cares if older people listen as long as enough young people do.
That's what gets me. If 50% of teens listen to Chris, who cares if the older listeners do as well?
You clearly already have the youth audience. That should be enough, but for the BBC Trust, it isn't, they must also drive away the older listeners. IDIOTS!

You have a point, but when the average age is outside of the target range you have a problem no matter how you look at it surely? That said, it is probably the people who are way outside the target demographic (45+?) who are dragging the average up. I'd imagine it would be far easier to to keep a target audience of 35-50 within its boundaries than it would 15-29 because you would have more people on both sides of the demographic who would help balance it up.

[mrwurzal]

Ok, my opinion, like it or not, but this is how I see the BBC and how they want to play out this farce...

As a HUGE fan of Chris Moyles and the show overall, I think that Big Boss Ben will be doing the following..

Put Grimmy in the hot seat with a whole different format, changing the dynamics of the whole breakfast show, to get the 7m+ listeners to forget about Moyles and the team, grimmy runs until the new figures are released or perhaps until xmas time, then a whole new team or DJ/Broadcaster will step into the slot.

We have seen this happen in the past and I can see it again. The breakfast show will not just be set with the first replacement, I think Grimmy is just going to be the stand in man, then a fill time, permanent person (s) will be replacing him once the dust has settled... it does seem the BBC's way when replacing a Flagship show presenter...

Your thoughts on my prediction?

[Yudster]

Well its not without precedent, but given Grimmy's high media profile and "celeb" status, I reckon the BBC will have invested a lot in him doing Breakfast, so I would be surprised if they were looking at him purely as a stop-gap.

[Travis Bickle]

Well its not without precedent, but given Grimmy's high media profile and "celeb" status, I reckon the BBC will have invested a lot in him doing Breakfast, so I would be surprised if they were looking at him purely as a stop-gap.

I agree. I do think they have their eye firmly on Greg James though if things dont go as planned. Grimmy is the wild-card shot at it, and if it doesnt work out he could easily go to drivetime and nobody would think much of it. However if James got it now he really would be expected to make it work after he has blatantly been groomed for the job. Unfortunately for him the timing wasnt quite right.

[officialthomasw]

I'm sure I've seen something somewhere that says Grimmy's got a 12 month contract with an option for a further 12 months after that but might be wrong.

[Yudster]

If that is the case, I reckon it would be a good deal for both parties to be fair.

[The Deadly]

Say what you like about Grimmy but there's nobody on the station better than Grimmy to attract the target audience.

[Travis Bickle]

Say what you like about Grimmy but there's nobody on the station better than Grimmy to attract the target audience.

Yes. Grimmy is no Moyles, but he is a sound choice to replace him.