[TomC]

Ha ha, from twitter,


markchapman ‏@markchapman
Grimmy you thieving bugger!! Wheel of Four Tunes was a mine and @davidvitty feature. Haha. Tho we never got Dr Who to play it
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[Cacophonic]

I'm in an interesting twitter debate with the Independent reviewer @michaelhogan. He seems to think it was good!

With all due respect, he's wrong.

That's what I'm trying to point out!

[clublander]

Yes, it was pretty bad.

BUT.... and I'm sure a lot here will disagree on...

Chris' first breakfast show was pretty bad too. Shouty, trying too hard and cringey unfunny in parts.

However, listening to the replays, he sorted himself out even by the end of week 1 (maybe wednesday actually).

I'm not surprised today was bad, but I'm interested in seeing how Grimmy does tomorrow, the rest of the week and the next few.

[postmoylesdepression]

Just listening to the start of the show. The opening song is certainly no match for the Cheesy Song! I don't know if it makes me incredibly sad but I used to set my alarm for 6:30 to hear the Cheesy Song, even if I didn't have to be anywhere until 9am!

The jingles also make it sound like just another Radio 1 show, which is not what the breakfast show should be. It's also just the same one over and over again, there's none of the warmth that the jingles on TCMS had.

[MrAndee]

Previous to this new show, i was a fan of Grimmy. I liked his night time show and championing of new music. I thought it was a pretty brave move to bring someone from Specialist into the Breakfast slot, so i thought I'd give this morning a go.

It was dire. I switched to my local BBC station it was that bad. (i dislike Evans and O'Connell, 6music dude bores me.)

But like others have suggested, I shall give it a go again in a couple of weeks when He has found his footing and this Wand Erection guff has died down.

[The Deadly]

He can't have Fincham constantly off mic. There's no harm in him chirping in every now and then on mic.

[Yudster]

Well I suppose I only heard the first 45 minutes of so, but it was a hell of a lot less obnoxious than the first 45 minutes of a Mills show. He'll do for me as a background for getting ready for work (my alarm goes off while Dev is still on) but like Nic, I wouldn't tune in once out of the house.

[Fathomer]

I like Grimmy but the production values on that show were shoddy to say the least:

1. The opening jingle- What was that? Sounded more like newsround/a youth news programme then a music based show.

2. Showing off that you havent prepared- ummmmmmmm? when is that ever a good thing? First thing I heard this morning: "We came in on Saturday and didnt do any work". Erm, hello?

3. Too content driven- odd for a music show but it had way too much clutter. the features were overwealming. Perhaps worse- none were original. Showquiz thing was CPC without the cost of hiring Roy, Wake up song was nicked off Greg, Fourtune was a Chappers and Dave feature.

4. Too teenage girl focused. It seems to be a BBC perception of what young people like rather then the reality.

5. No room for Grimmy to breath- We didnt really get much about how he was feeling because the show was weighed down witg interviews and features.

6. Crap start- Say i had never heard Grimmy before. How was I meant to get to know the guy? The team intro was rushed...matt F was part of the show without any intro as to who he is. Who is Ian? Weird.

What I dont get is that these are all the basics. Moyles' first show was bland and stilted but the features were good so the foundations were strong. With this i would say its the opposite.

[chrysostom]

The Breakfast Show Producer Meeting:

Ben Cooper: "We need to appeal to the 15-25 year olds, now guys - I've been told that your show appeals to this demographic, so I'm moving you to breakfast. I can't wait to see what you've got"

*Ben leaves the room*

Grimmy: "...Matt, what are we going to do?!"
Matt: "Right...let's try searching twitter."
Grimmy: "Has anything come up?!"
Matt: "Ok, from my research I can see that our target market enjoys the following; One Direction, Justin Bieber, Pretending that you don't care, hashtags and Robots"
Grimmy: "Leave it to me."

I'm surprised they didn't get Matt Edmonson in to punch the elephant in the room in the face. I loved his feature that kicks older listeners off Radio 1.

[Tunster]

I like Grimmy but the production values on that show were shoddy to say the least:

1. The opening jingle- What was that? Sounded more like newsround/a youth news programme then a music based show.

2. Showing off that you havent prepared- ummmmmmmm? when is that ever a good thing? First thing I heard this morning: "We came in on Saturday and didnt do any work". Erm, hello?

3. Too content driven- odd for a music show but it had way too much clutter. the features were overwealming. Perhaps worse- none were original. Showquiz thing was CPC without the cost of hiring Roy, Wake up song was nicked off Greg, Fourtune was a Chappers and Dave feature.

4. Too teenage girl focused. It seems to be a BBC perception of what young people like rather then the reality.

5. No room for Grimmy to breath- We didnt really get much about how he was feeling because the show was weighed down witg interviews and features.

6. Crap start- Say i had never heard Grimmy before. How was I meant to get to know the guy? The team intro was rushed...matt F was part of the show without any intro as to who he is. Who is Ian? Weird.

What I dont get is that these are all the basics. Moyles' first show was bland and stilted but the features were good so the foundations were strong. With this i would say its the opposite.

Spot on. I've probably written that in about a million and one different ways this morning. You still going to give him a week or two weeks before deriving a final opinion?

[clublander]

4. Too teenage girl focused. It seems to be a BBC perception of what young people like rather then the reality.

Thats a problem all over the BBC, you're absolutely spot on.

[MK Chris]

I'm surprised they didn't get Matt Edmonson in to punch the elephant in the room in the face. I loved his feature that kicks older listeners off Radio 1.

YES - loved that feature the couple of times I heard it.

[Scottbartonexp]

Have to say enjoyed scott mills at brekkie much more, was just utter bilge. Im 25 and i actually turned the channel over to radio 2, and then back again, and then i just switched the radio off. gutting, doesnt help that i dislike Grimmys way of presenting anyway

[Fathomer]

Good review I agree with from digitalspy:

I felt somewhat sorry for Grimmy, listening to him to this morning. Being handed breakfast is the great opportunity to push one's self into the A-list - but it is also a baptism of fire. Nick is more than up to the job, but certain things have to happen.

Firstly - he needs to drop the self-deprecation. Yes, he didn't have the crash-and-burn learning curve of the radio ladder that Moyles, Evans, Edmonds etc. did, which is both a blessing and a curse, but he is well over that phase now. He has just as much a right to command that microphone this morning as anyone else and should have that faith in himself.

Secondly - breakfast radio, even if trying to appeal to a younger generation - is a different format to nighttime. The morning is not usually the most endearing time of day to most people, and Grimmy needs to start building empathy with his listeners by sharing more of himself and his opinions. He now has the platform on which to do that. For example, one of his first links this morning was how he woke at 4 a.m. approx. I'm not a broadcaster or producer but perhaps a good link there would have been to describe what it was like travelling through London at that time, and how his life was going to change, and how Moyles was probably in bed having his feet massaged, etc. - something along those lines. He missed some opportunities for that today which is probably nerves more than anything, but he may also have been given a directive to keep the links tightly centered around celebrity content. If so that would be a terrible shame. A couple of items early on asked "what should be the @R1breakfast show's first tweet" and "what celebs tweeted him to wish him good luck - guess". I find it hard to believe that these are weighty issues on either his mind or that of the listener.

Pop tunes and listener texts can only carry one so far. He has to take that chance and absolutely let rip.

Good luck Grimmy - make the show your own.

[Tunster]

Good review I agree with from digitalspy:

Secondly - breakfast radio, even if trying to appeal to a younger generation - is a different format to nighttime. The morning is not usually the most endearing time of day to most people, and Grimmy needs to start building empathy with his listeners by sharing more of himself and his opinions. He now has the platform on which to do that. For example, one of his first links this morning was how he woke at 4 a.m. approx. I'm not a broadcaster or producer but perhaps a good link there would have been to describe what it was like travelling through London at that time, and how his life was going to change, and how Moyles was probably in bed having his feet massaged, etc. - something along those lines. He missed some opportunities for that today which is probably nerves more than anything, but he may also have been given a directive to keep the links tightly centered around celebrity content. If so that would be a terrible shame. A couple of items early on asked "what should be the @R1breakfast show's first tweet" and "what celebs tweeted him to wish him good luck - guess". I find it hard to believe that these are weighty issues on either his mind or that of the listener.

Pop tunes and listener texts can only carry one so far. He has to take that chance and absolutely let rip.

Good luck Grimmy - make the show your own.

This paragraph is more paramount that the others. Some of us realise Grimmy has potential being quite a confident person and doesn't shy from showing that on radio. The risk is that he'll end up being the Radio 1 lap-dog to the management after 8 years of minimal control of Chris' content and style. If the producers behind the scenes had done presenting or managed the Chris Moyles show before, then they'd be better execution of that. However, this isn't the case and I do wonder if Grimmy will have to do anything that is put infront of him.

The next few days will determine if todays show was pure nerves (and resulted in the producers guiding it) or whether it's a sit down and do as you're told instruction.

[Latina]

I honestly just think it's a case of giving him a few days to settle in and get into a groove. If the lack of a zoo format proves to be a stumbling block, I'm sure one will develop soon enough and the crew (starting with Matt) will be brought in a bit more.

It's like a sitcom... you don't get hooked after the pilot; if it's any good then you'll start to like it as you get to know the characters. Which means, as the above review stated, there will be more chance of success if the show has more of a personal touch.

If they insist on leaving out the zoo thing then he'll just have to do all that work himself, but other DJs have succeeded (including Greg James, which I still cannot fathom).

[MDarlin]

The opening song is more likely to put one BACK to sleep! Talk about being older than the desired demographic! That's crazy!

Being in the US, we know Zoo-Format Radio. And to me, the 'zoo' format equals 'brainless'. I guess that's what the normal term is for what Moylsie and his team did, but it seems so wrong to call it that, to me. It was only ever brilliant.

[Emmy]

I think it was decent enough for a first show. I can't say I'll be tuning in every day, but it was easier to adjust to than I expected. The critics (taken from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... debut.html ) seem to have been happy enough with it too.

And what the critics thought...

'In between the celeb guests, Nick was funny, cool, collected, and played actual - gasp - music.' Now magazine

'Grimmy’s first show was fast-paced, full of celebrity banter and, most importantly, fun.' Daily Mirror

'A promising start – and a clear break from what went before. It was out with dad rock, cynicism and bloatedly self-indulgent banter; in with dance beats, youthful energy and enthusiasm for new music... The show has swapped one who prefers music to the sound of his own voice; one much more in touch with its target audience of teens and twentysomethings.' Daily Telegraph


'The message in the opening show – which was a likeable mix of music, self-deprecating chat, interaction on social media, interviews, silly features and funny, often quite bitchy quips – was that the power here has shifted and lies squarely in the music... A very promising, refreshing start that politely suggested the over-30s might like to retune.' The Guardian

[Sophie.]

As a 15 year old girl,(the target audience it seems for Grimmy's show) I would just like to make it clear, not all teenage girls are rabid 1D/Justin Bieber fans. To be honest, most people that I know of my age group loath them. It seems radio 1 are appealing to the stereotypical image of a teenage girl, while in actual fact putting off most of the people of that age.
I also think, most people of that age can't listen due to school/college/uni or getting sleep. Personally I used to listen to the Chris Moyles Show on Iplayer while browsing the net, but this show isn't something I would go out of my way to listen to while browsing.

[Sally A]

Gave it a try, as I said I would.

Thank the Lord for more music - as his voice really grated. Calling Matt Fincham "Finchy". That quiz - it wasn't a quiz - at least I've learned stuff from Rob DJ's quiz - as for robotic sat nav voice lady - blatantly nicked from R4's I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue when she does the Mornington Crescent game.

For some bloke with BBC DJ'ing experience to take over the flag ship show - sorry, this was like the Work Experience boy had stepped in. Even Tina sounded subdued, and she was never Ms Perky in my book.

This just highlighted what a great presenter Chris Moyles was/is; 0630 a gentle cheesy song, banter, not loud and raucous, just enough to get you out of your slumber and a few chuckles before 0700hrs.

Previously, if I woke early, I'd get up just to hear the start of the CMS - now, my alarm snooze button will take a battering until 0745.

As for NG admitting he's done very little prep - silly boy - you need to lots of prep to make it sound like you haven't done any.

[Tunster]

'The message in the opening show – which was a likeable mix of music, self-deprecating chat, interaction on social media, interviews, silly features and funny, often quite bitchy quips – was that the power here has shifted and lies squarely in the music... A very promising, refreshing start that politely suggested the over-30s might like to retune.' The Guardian

This review angers me the most. You only have to look at the music playlist...

Jay-Z & Kanye West - Paris
Otto Knows - Million Voices
Rita Ora - How We Do (Party)
Muse - Madness
Coldplay - Paradise
DJ Fresh - The Feeling (feat. RaVaughn)
Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
Skrillex - Bangarang (feat. Sirah)
The Killers - Runaways
Rudimental - Feel The Love (feat. John Newman)
The Script - Hall Of Fame (feat. Will.I.Am)
One Direction - Live While We're Young
David Guetta - She Wolf (Falling To Pieces) (feat. Sia)
Rizzle Kicks - When I Was A Youngster
Justin Bieber - Beauty And A Beat (feat. Nicki Minaj)
Cheryl Cole - Call My Name
Madeon - The City
Example - Say Nothing
fun. - Some Nights
AlunaGeorge - Your Drums, Your Love
Nero - Me And You
The Vaccines - Teenage Icon
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Rihanna - Where Have You Been

Apart from the longer list, there's nothing different or groundbreaking there that CM wouldn't of played. Even the music played over on Grimmy's night show didn't creep in. The odd thing is that guy who reviewed it in the Guardian isn't even within the shows remit, so how could he ever constitute what's better? Apart from the last bit about being more concentrated on music, you'd think it was a genuine review of the CM Show.

Shame none of the written media understands what radio is all about .

[James H]

I haven't yet found one criticism of Nick on any of the news articles I've read so far, however the consensus with "real" people seems very at-odds with that. I think the papers are just swooning over the fact that someone who isn't Chris is on in the mornings.

I listened for 5 minutes and wasn't impressed at all, and I don't think I'll bother listening again.

This one particularly annoyed me:

Grimshaw's first track – N***** in Paris by Jay-Z and Kanye West – wasn't picked to symbolise his new job or as an ironic twist on a classic, but to show that he is not going to be ruled by the playlist

Errr, Radio 1 have been playing that particular track so much that even Chris played it enough for me to remember it!

[Cacophonic]

I've narrowed my opinion over those media reviews down to two things.

Either the entire media were listening to a Nick Grimshaw show in a parallel universe where he wasn't vapid, stumbley, and boring, or the bbc are paying them to write positive reviews. I suspect it's the latter. The general population don't seem to rate him on first listening!

I like how Chris tweeted the entire #teammoyles album at 2am. I wonder if that was his way of showing support? Either that or he was a bit tipsy!

I'm so annoyed by those media reviews
I was thinking in the car on the way back from town, there really is a big gap needing to be filled. Maybe Radio 1 should launch a 'Radio 1 golden years" station and have DJ's of the middle years (i.e. Chris) and play the old stuff

[Emmy]

I've narrowed my opinion over those media reviews down to two things.

Either the entire media were listening to a Nick Grimshaw show in a parallel universe where he wasn't vapid, stumbley, and boring, or the bbc are paying them to write positive reviews. I suspect it's the latter. The general population don't seem to rate him on first listening!

I like how Chris tweeted the entire #teammoyles album at 2am. I wonder if that was his way of showing support? Either that or he was a bit tipsy!

I'm so annoyed by those media reviews

Why? What's the point of being annoyed? They liked it, you didn't, you don't have to listen if you don't want to and they can carry on listening happily. Everyone is sorted. We all need to move on from the Moyles show.

[Yudster]

As a 15 year old girl,(the target audience it seems for Grimmy's show) I would just like to make it clear, not all teenage girls are rabid 1D/Justin Bieber fans. To be honest, most people that I know of my age group loath them. It seems radio 1 are appealing to the stereotypical image of a teenage girl, while in actual fact putting off most of the people of that age.
I also think, most people of that age can't listen due to school/college/uni or getting sleep. Personally I used to listen to the Chris Moyles Show on Iplayer while browsing the net, but this show isn't something I would go out of my way to listen to while browsing.

You can stay - a 15 year old girl who not only expresses taste and discernment in her entertainment choices but can construct a well written paragraph or two is a rare beast indeed.