[tyler4bcfc]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/new ... mshaw.html

[Yudster]

This is HILARIOUS! I thought Moyles was the one who was supposed to be inappropriate for the audience?!

[JayE]

I hope they get rid of him too. He's awful.

[neilt0]

[ManicPumpkin]

[Bas]

He does have a face you'd never tire of stamping on though.

[Badger Mark]

From the article:

"[Grimshaw]'s supposed to be a role model for kids but using this sort of language is surely inappropriate."

Since when is a radio dj a role model for anyone? Was Chris a role model for any listeners when he took over the breakfast show? Maybe a young person hoping to get into the business someday, but other than that I highly doubt it.

[slaphead1982]

As much as I'd like to see him gone from the radio 1 breakfast show, This is not a good enough reason to boot him off. I agree with Badger Mark in that a radio DJ is never a decent roll model for kids. It was his own account so he should'nt have to edit himself on there.

[Misfit]

as much as this makes me laugh, and I joined the group for shits and giggles, I have to say, if you're worried about your kids being exposed to bad language, twitter is probably the last place for them to be.

[Yudster]

I agree 100% with misfit - you either let your kids use these things with an understanding of what it is that they are using (ie a toy for grown-ups) or you don't. Baby Yudster isn't allowed on Twitter, or Facebook any more than I would let him go to a bar or a nightclub - its my responsibility to be aware of and edit who and what he is exposed to.

[Misfit]

I dont see the point of anyone under the age of 11 needing a mobile phone to be honest. Thats when you go to high school, thats when you should be trusted with one. Obviously you cant stop kids from accessing stuff on the internet if they really wanna see it (i remember my mum had a filter on our computer during revision time for the 11plus and we just bypassed by using a proxy thing, same as the filter at school), but mobile phones now make accessing stuff a hell of a lot easier.

[Travis Bickle]

I agree 100% with misfit - you either let your kids use these things with an understanding of what it is that they are using (ie a toy for grown-ups) or you don't. Baby Yudster isn't allowed on Twitter, or Facebook any more than I would let him go to a bar or a nightclub - its my responsibility to be aware of and edit who and what he is exposed to.

I agree with that. The campaign is ridiculous, but there MAY be a point there when you think how much the show has been re-branded and aimed squarely at kids, that it isn't really appropriate for Grimshaw to go on twitter and talk like that.

That isn't my view, but I can just about see that line of thinking. Possibly.

Parents still have to take primary responsibility though.

[Yudster]

A phone is another thing that won't be provided until WE want him to have one for our own peace of mind. Realistically that will probably be when he is going to school and training etc on his own, and we want to keep tabs on where he is. Lots of kids in his class at school already have them - he is 8! I'm surprised (although happy) that he hasn't shown any flicker of interest in having one himself.

[Misfit]

A phone is another thing that won't be provided until WE want him to have one for our own peace of mind. Realistically that will probably be when he is going to school and training etc on his own, and we want to keep tabs on where he is. Lots of kids in his class at school already have them - he is 8! I'm surprised (although happy) that he hasn't shown any flicker of interest in having one himself.

See I dont get that, theres a hilarious bit on a john bishop show where he says something along the lines of

"you're 8! why do you need a phone?, who're you gonna call, bob the builder"

I was given one at the age of ten, but only because I was walking to school with my friend and his mum and mum was worried during winter when it got, so she got me a BT cellnet phone that had a sticky out ariel on the top. I dont think I ever rang anyone at all on that phone..

also glad to hear you're not letting him go to bars and nightclubs at 8, I think hed struggle with fake ID!

[Yudster]

Well, he does look older than his age - but probably not by that much!

[Sophie.]

When I was 13 if I heard that word I would not really care. If he sent a message to a 13 year old saying that then perhaps, but really it seems very over the top to want him off the radio because of a comment with a swear word. Perhaps if he instead got kicked off the radio for not being very good...

[Badger Mark]

When I was 13 if I heard that word I would not really care. If he sent a message to a 13 year old saying that then perhaps, but really it seems very over the top to want him off the radio because of a comment with a swear word. Perhaps if he instead got kicked off the radio for not being very good...

Agree on this. And frankly, there can't be that many 13 years old that haven't heard an F-bomb here and there. Over this past summer, we started letting our 14 year old daughter watch stuff with more adult language in it simply because she's heard it all already in school. So why should she miss out of good programs simply because of some bad language.

And I agree with pretty much everything that everyone else has said so far.

[Yudster]

The issue of exposure to language is an interesting one - Baby Yudster isn't specifically sheltered from it, he has heard language like that frequently. The point is he has always understood the difference between what other people are saying and what it is ok for HIM to say. The idea that you bring your kids up with the belief that if other people do it (parents included) then its ok for them to do it is fraught with danger - and at the end of the day, children are children and it is perfectly ok to say to them that grown ups can do and say things that they can't. If adults and children were equal there would be no need for parents.

Personally I wouldn't have an issue with him seeing language like that on Twitter. My objection to Twitter and Facebook for him is more to do with the people and situations it is all too easy to get involved with, rather than a few random obscenities.

[Badger Mark]

The issue of exposure to language is an interesting one - Baby Yudster isn't specifically sheltered from it, he has heard language like that frequently. The point is he has always understood the difference between what other people are saying and what it is ok for HIM to say. The idea that you bring your kids up with the belief that if other people do it (parents included) then its ok for them to do it is fraught with danger - and at the end of the day, children are children and it is perfectly ok to say to them that grown ups can do and say things that they can't. If adults and children were equal there would be no need for parents.

Personally I wouldn't have an issue with him seeing language like that on Twitter. My objection to Twitter and Facebook for him is more to do with the people and situations it is all too easy to get involved with, rather than a few random obscenities.

Great points. It really comes down to the parent putting what the kids are seeing or hearing in proper context and letting their kids know what is or isn't appropriate for THEM to say despite whatever else is going on around them. Sure my daughter hears this stuff at school and, to be honest, she's heard it from me on occasion when I wasn't thinking about who was in the room with me, but she knows that we don't think it's appropriate for her to talk like that. Does she use bad language when we're not around? Possibly, but I'm guessing she doesn't knowing the type of kid she is and the friends that she hangs around with.

[Chris.i.am]

As much as I'd love to see the back of Grimmy there is really no one on that station (in my opinion) who could pull off a decent morning show. Hell it would probably be no different to whats no now, all be it with a different face!

[The Deadly]

I'd argue Greg James would do a better job as would Jameela Jamil. I can't believe I said that either but she's really good I think.

[Yudster]

I don't listen to enough of the show to really care to be honest, but Grimmy's voice is beginning to really annoy me. He seems to be getting whinier and camper by the day. When I first heard him on the radio, years ago, he didn't have that affected lispy mincy voice, it is so obviously deliberate and beginning to be very irritating.

Having said that, I agree with whoever it was who said that it wouldn't really matter who was on breakfast now, it would still be a poor substitute for what they let go. Idiots.

[dimtimjim]

The issue of exposure to language is an interesting one - Baby Yudster isn't specifically sheltered from it, he has heard language like that frequently. The point is he has always understood the difference between what other people are saying and what it is ok for HIM to say. The idea that you bring your kids up with the belief that if other people do it (parents included) then its ok for them to do it is fraught with danger - and at the end of the day, children are children and it is perfectly ok to say to them that grown ups can do and say things that they can't. If adults and children were equal there would be no need for parents.

Its stuff like this which confirms Yuddles is a good mommy (in my opinion). I completely share her views on this subject and wee-DTJ has been brought on on highly similar standards.

At the end of the day I cannot be with her 24/7 protecting her from anything I deem unsuitable, she will naturally come across these things in her day to day life - some kids have a real potty mouth, even before they hit double figures.

All I can do is ensure she knows how/when to use this language herself, which i've stressed is never in polite company and in general its not nice to see pretty girls/ladies leaking profanities. She knows, should she drive a nail through her hand (not that she does much DIY, but as an example) I'd turn a blind eye to the odd swear word, but to get in to the habbit of using * every second word, as some do, i'd be down on her like a tonne of bricks.

But, regardless of any of this, they should get Grimmey off the R1 breaky show. I know it'll never bring back Chris, but I never thought NG would be a suitable replacement. Never.

[Boboff]

I agree with you all, Grimmy should be able to moderate his language and assume he can post in the style of say a 15 film or video game.

I got our 10 year old son a phone for his birthday this year, he is dyslexic and I hoped it would encourage his typing to family. He has used about £4 of credit and the phone has been in the washing machine twice, and used more for games and MP3 files than as a phone, but he is getting used to looking after it!

I am so very fed up with my children using the word "like" all the time, so every time I swear they are allowed one "like", and every like I am allowed one swear.....

It's not the point obviously, they know they can't swear, and that I can, but I have the choice of not, and I would rather not, especially in front of them, your language is a choice you make, that is the important lesson for children, and that choice is available to all. I am open minded but I don't like the "C" word or any reference to having carnal knowledge with a family member, specifically anything maternal, YUK (I have taken X box games off of the boy for this reason, no need)

Oh and then you go on, what if they text WTF? surely that is swearing? No, it's not, it's a phrase which expresses exasperation and disbelief.

Anyway, I just had Ricky Gervais voice sound in my head, so I am off.

[dimtimjim]

they can't swear, and that I can

Love that! Isn't being a parent great?!