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By The Deadly
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I'd like to see this scenario with with the races reversed. I'd be willing to bet the majority of white people in the barbershop would either say nothing or agree with the racist comments.
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By dimtimjim
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Oh my golly-gosh, this is so clever, and good. Please take a few mins out to enjoy it. Music will not be to all tastes, but the light show is so clever. What a tribute!

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Just remembered this:
MadTheEddos wrote:
Yudster wrote:I can't believe MadTheEddos couldn't have googled that. Big Bang merchandise isn't exactly difficult to find on the the internet.

After typing that reply as a kneejerk reaction to seeing howabout94's post I did, indeed, have a facepalm moment and do a quick search on Ebay(Which > Googling anyway).

@howabout94: Thanks for taking the moment to reply! I'm contemplating whether to buy one now or to wait till Xmas/New Year.


I now do finally have one! As of about 3 weeks ago. This, taken a couple of weeks back:
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Can't remember last time I was so proud to own an item of clothing. Wearing it again today!
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By Yudster
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Well played Ryan - what are you hoping to study?
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By Nicola_Red
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What did being a vegan have to do with the subject at hand, do you know? Was the person who posted the anti-vaccines message a vegan? Or did he just single vegans out as an example of people he regards as "whiny"?

ETA: he mentions it further down again so I'm guessing it did indeed come from a known vegan source. Hopefully people reading that don't assume all vegans are anti-vaccine and exposing their kids to crazy diseases.
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By chrysostom
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I think that the user's Tumblr name was something to do with Veganism.

Reminds me of the woman who wrote 'Melanie's Marvellous Measles' (reviews here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews ... ewpoints=1) - who used a similar title to Roald Dahl's story, Roald Dahl wrote this about vaccinations:

Roald Dahl wrote:Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her.

That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness.

Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk.

In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. [Since this was written in 1986, the success of the MMR vaccination has reduced this figure to several thousand each year, but unvaccinated children are still at risk, and some do still die of measles].

Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another.

At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections.

About 20 will die.

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation.

So what on earth are you worrying about?

It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunisation should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was James and the Giant Peach’. That was when she was still alive. The second was ‘The BFG’, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.


Needless to say, the reviews lambast her poor taste and general ignorance in promoting a lack of vaccination.

edit. I did find this in relation to Veganism and vaccination:

VeganSociety.com wrote:Animals will have been involved in the production of vaccines at some stage. Most vaccines are cultured in fertilised chicken eggs and the few which use alternative methods are typically cultured in cells of mammalian origin. In the case of the HINI (swine flu) vaccine, the main vaccine used in the UK (Pandemrix) is produced using eggs, while the non-egg version used in the UK (Celvapan, intended solely for egg allergy sufferers) is produced using cell lines from cells originally taken from a monkey (Vero cells). All vaccines will have been tested on animals during their development to provide the legally required safety information, and some vaccines use animal tests to provide safety information for individual batches.


But also found this and this which offer rationale as to why it's acceptable to accept vaccines and stay vegan.
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By Nicola_Red
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Yeah, Donald Watson, who coined the term vegan, described it as avoiding animal products "as far as possible and practicable". Which is somewhat open to individual interpretation. I've seen debate - and serious debate, not joking - about whether it's vegan to kill headlice.
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By Topher
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I'd like to see them pick them out and put them outside.
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By chrysostom
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Nicola_Red wrote:I've seen debate - and serious debate, not joking - about whether it's vegan to kill headlice.


Wow, there must be all sorts of debate when it comes to various parasitic organisms - I've never thought of it as such. Wonder what the line on tapeworm is...
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By Topher
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I maintain that plants are living organisms and therefore lettuce, for example, is out of the question.
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By Bonanzoid
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I had 3 bott flies in my scalp after my trip to Central America, vegan or not I'd probably have preferred them out and dead than still in my head and surviving. The scratching noises as they grew could drive you insane...

For the record, it was when the scratching noises started that I realised I didn't have 3 infected mosquito bites.
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By Yudster
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Making me smile - and cry a little - today are catherine, Topher, Zoot, Boboff, Charlalottie, Foot-Loose, DimTimJim and Devils Duck.

Guys you have no idea. I love you very much.
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