[Mcqueen_]

I'd just have a colour bg, and tables that are a different shade of the colour or a similar colour that goes well. (...or a picture of myself :yawn:...)

I wouldn't recommend frames, they can cause quite a few problems but that is just my opinion. Use tables to make a template then you can just put the different information for each page in a cell.

[Adam]

i was only having a laugh.. why the yawn??

[Stephen.]

I'd just have a colour bg, and tables that are a different shade of the colour or a similar colour that goes well.

Is there anyway you could try and show me this mate 'coz I'm not sure I get what you're trying to say If you can, a simple html example would be cool.

[Mcqueen_]

What dont you understand? A page, with a colour background, with a table inside it that has a different background.

[Stephen.]

Well I get that but I don't understand how you can make a table look nice

[MK Chris]

In the head:

Code: Select all<style type='text/css'>
<!--
td {border: #000000 solid 1;}
//-->
</style>

Then all your table borders will be black and a solid line instead of the default 3-D thing and one pixel wide.

Learn CSS

[Mcqueen_]

I think you'll find any site with a good design is most likely done in tables. Just look at a site you like the design of and it'll most likely be done in tables. The main chrismoyles.net site is in tables, this board style is in tables...

Tables can be invisible and are just used to arrange a page so how do they not look nice?

[timb]

and therein lies the answer, to make a table look nice make it invisible.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

with i had an invisible table i could put the paper under it an not worry bout getting food on it.

[edmondo]

Stephen

It's worth spending quite a while trying to make a good, consistent layout for your website. Personally I'd go for a navigation bar along the top or down the side (probably without frames). I'd also just go for a plain background, but hey, that's just my opinion.

Your front page is also rather long, it's better to try and limit the size of the opening page so it all fits on the screen.

You can take a look at my site (http://www.andrewedmonds.co.uk) to get an idea. My site is being moved to a new server so it may go down at some point over the next few days.

[Stephen.]

Ok so check this site out and you'll see what I'm looking to create. It's got to the stage where I don't really care about the layout all to much, I've done the main things people didn't like and that;ll do for me!

What I want is that scroll menu down the side of each page so if any one knows how to make this then I'd be very grateful to know too?!

I don't need any fancy java shit to e-mail links etc. just plain text with links to the internal pages.

Thanks in advance.
Stephen.

P.S. Note: I am not responsible for the content of that website... Let's just say it isn't the cleanest site I've seen in a while!

[~JACQUI~]

jees!

its not even blocked on the school computers either!

[MK Chris]

P.S. Note: I am not responsible for the content of that website... Let's just say it isn't the cleanest site I've seen in a while!

Need more info before I look at work - is it porn dirty, language dirty or what?

[Stephen.]

It's a celebrity news site... But it's basically full of porn and naked pics of celebs. I wouldn't go on it at work no! Sorry if I get anyone into trouble at work etc.

[Mcqueen_]

I wouldn't look at it at work, it's the Robs Celebs site.

And the site is simply done in frames. If you're still using Front Page go File > New Page or Web > Page Templates > Frame Pages > and select the Contents layout. Then just create the pages seperately. Just make sure all the links in the left frame target is set to the main frame.

[Stephen.]

go File > New Page or Web > Page Templates > Frame Pages > and select the Contents layout. Then just create the pages seperately.

I've done this bit but when I save it and then click on the page to view it there is either just the main page or the menu in the contents frame and also in the main frame

Just make sure all the links in the left frame target is set to the main frame.

How do you mean on this?

[Mcqueen_]

Well you've done something wrong then. When you save it it will save the two pages within the frame saved seperately and then a page containing both the pages in frames.

When you create a hyperlink on a page you have to make sure the target frame is set as the main frame.

[Stephen.]

Well you've done something wrong then. When you save it it will save the two pages within the frame saved seperately and then a page containing both the pages in frames.

When you create a hyperlink on a page you have to make sure the target frame is set as the main frame.

Right gotcha, I'll give the saving another go and come back...

[MK Chris]

Check your PMs...

[Stephen.]

You have no messages in this folder

...

[MK Chris]

Oh, I have sent it to someone registered as 'stephen' and not 'Stephen.'

Try now.

[Stephen.]

Right this is what I wanted right from the start but didn't know how to do it.

I'm just sticking with what I have now apart from maybe a bit more added to the content or deleted as the case may be.

The "downloads" page is being a bit shitty with me at my end right now but the correct page is uploaded so it could just be one of those sit back and wait type things.