[Mcqueen_]

The chances of me ever saying it to a black person are slim anyway.

Would you of hit the person if they were black Mafro?

[Chief Erf]

WHats the difference between saying nigger and saying paki, you don't hear asian people, or more logically pakistanis saying calling each other paki. I think that Black poeple, calling each otehr 'nigger' is more about reflecting on years of slavery, its almost like affection, sounds weird but that what i think. But the conrtext in which That * was using it, was obviously deliberotly racist, when you make a reacist comment, you know your making one, its no slip of the tongue, tehre isnt some momentary fascist thought fairy. And in a sport where racism is supposed to be tackled head on, i think its only right that he should be hung, no sorry, fired.....at.

[Sidders]

Isn't there a line of clothing called PAK1 or something like that?

[Chief Erf]

I would'nt be suprised

[Nicky]

If anyones interested, hears what Ron said.


Qualitys really poor, and he only starts talking after about 10 seconds in.

http://www.mcniven.co.uk/audio/3%20Desailly2.mp3

[MK Chris]

Isn't there a line of clothing called PAK1 or something like that?

Yeah, the bloke that runs it is (predictably) Asian and wants to claim the word 'paki' back off of racists, as it apparently means 'pure' or something similar. I think it's a good idea, Moyles always goes on at this time of year about people not celebrating St George's day in this country - I think the reason for that is basically the same principal - people like the BNP have hijacked symbols like the St George's Cross and now decent people feel they can't celebrate it.

I'm not aware of the exact meaning behind 'n*gger', but I know that its perhaps the only word (or certainly one of the only words) that I would not use in public because of the reaction it generates. Whether it has an offensive meaning or not, it is generally associated with being used with intent to offend.

[Mafro]

The chances of me ever saying it to a black person are slim anyway.

Would you of hit the person if they were black Mafro?

No, because I can't imagine a Black person calling another Black person it. One of my white Westwood-esque mates mistakenly called me it once think he was "down with the hood", the fool.

[Mcqueen_]

No, because I can't imagine a Black person calling another Black person it. One of my white Westwood-esque mates mistakenly called me it once think he was "down with the hood", the fool.

But black people do call each other it. So even though you can't imagine it, if a black person called you it would you hit them? Also did you hit your mate for offending you so badly?

[Mafro]

No, because I can't imagine a Black person calling another Black person it. One of my white Westwood-esque mates mistakenly called me it once think he was "down with the hood", the fool.

But black people do call each other it. So even though you can't imagine it, if a black person called you it would you hit them? Also did you hit your mate for offending you so badly?

When Black people call each other it, it isnt meant as an insult, more of a joke. I didn't hit my friend because my bitchy feisty (female) friend got there first.

[Mcqueen_]

So what is wrong with me, a white person, saying it as a joke and not an insult?

[Sidders]

How can it be a joke if a white person says it?

[Mcqueen_]

Why can't it be? Come on we are suppose to treat everyone equally here. Isn't not allowing a white person to use a word discrimination? Treating people differently because of their race are we?

[Sidders]

Well if you called me fat to my face you'd probably get a smack in the mush, but if a fat bastard called me fat I'd laugh.

[Ahh_Pathetic]

Why can't it be? Come on we are suppose to treat everyone equally here. Isn't not allowing a white person to use a word discrimination? Treating people differently because of their race are we?

Once you have been subjected to discrimination for something you can do nothing about you can come back and talk. being stupid you can do something about.