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By Adam
#123385
Was this actually live? I'm sure someone said it was pre-recorded

As for last night, Im glad I wasnt watching.

Slightly worried look..

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By Nablo.
#123386
Understandable really.
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By Spoon
#123400
I'd forgotten it was on. I got back from dinner out and put the tv on just in time to see the bloke take the test shot and then let the other guy choose a bullet (technically he should've been allowed to choose both bullets).
Was quite entertaining, especially as I hadn't sat through the rest of the show.
The 50 greated magic tricks shown afterwards was quite good too.
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By Sidders
#123401
Spoon wrote:The 50 greated magic tricks shown afterwards was quite good too.

That's been on hundreds of times before.
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By Mcqueen_
#123402
Adam wrote:Was this actually live? I'm sure someone said it was pre-recorded


Ananova wrote:The performance, shown on Channel 4 "as live" with a short time delay in case of tragedy, has been roundly criticised by senior police officers and campaign groups.


Can't see what difference it makes if it was pre-recorded as long as it wasn't edited. They were hardly going to risk having someone blow there head off Live on TV.
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By Adam
#123409
Mcqueen wrote:
Adam wrote:Was this actually live? I'm sure someone said it was pre-recorded


Ananova wrote:The performance, shown on Channel 4 "as live" with a short time delay in case of tragedy, has been roundly criticised by senior police officers and campaign groups.


Can't see what difference it makes if it was pre-recorded as long as it wasn't edited. They were hardly going to risk having someone blow there head off Live on TV.


Adam wrote:I'm sure there is some kind of delay involved. There surely cant show it live live..


yeah, i did say the other day that it would have some kind of delay :?
By Aaron
#123410
someone said there was a 20 second delay and the bbc website says there was a couple hours between it been done and been shown on C4
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By Nablo.
#123457
Well if it was pre-recorded they could of at least edited it so that it finnished on time and didn't over run.
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By Morals
#123458
Question: What's to say the bloke wasn't told what chamber to load the round in to before the show?
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By Ell Mc
#123459
thats a good point
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By Ell Mc
#123461
why did everyone else have to leave the room aswell they should have had someone who stayed in the room or just something that makes sure it really happened at the time
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By Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog
#123526
Morals wrote:Question: What's to say the bloke wasn't told what chamber to load the round in to before the show?


the problem with any magic on the telly or whatever is that you have to take some things on trust. you could go on forever....
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By Sidders
#123529
That's why magic doesn't really work as well on the telly as it does in real life.
By Bridgie
#123543
yeah but thats the point, he quite clearly says it isnt actually magic, its just reading people. thats why it was fascinating, because it was down to his skill of reading someones experessions rather than it being a trick. any magician could say heres a trick i'll predict the chamber and it wouldnt be entertaining to watch because you knew it was prepared but this was cool.
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By Diffusionuk
#123553
Well I was gigging on Sunday night and I've just watched it this morning, even though I knew the result I was nervous.

Those who watched the show and have watched Derrens other stuff are well aware that this wasn't magic but it was all down to reading or predicting peoples behaviours.

Watching the film, the Ralf Little lookalike who loaded the gun does rush past number one when he counts from 1 to six and Derren was watching his body and facial reactions as he announced 'I'm now about to fire round 4' or whatever he said before firing each round. so he could gauge his reactions. The number 5 thing, a genuine mistake or intentional for a 'great telly moment' to be endlessly repeated on C4 top tens for years to come, I dunno.

At the end of the day, a fantastic piece of television, David Blaine can shove his box up his arse as far as I'm concerned!
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By Sidders
#123565
Diffusionuk wrote:David Blaine can shove his box up his arse as far as I'm concerned!

Would it fit though?
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By Spoon
#123566
Sidla wrote:That's why magic doesn't really work as well on the telly as it does in real life.

One of the "greatest" tricks ever was Blaine "flying" outside in front of witnesses. On tv he levitates to about 1m up. I saw the spoiler of this trick. When standing with the witnesses he turns his back to them, feet together and puts his arms out. Then slowly he stands on his toes of one foot. It does look like he's starting to levitate but only a few inches.
They film the reaction of the crowd. Once the crowd is gone, the use a crane to lift him higher and just splice the footage in. Normally filming that from just behind to the side of someone dressed like someone in the original crowd.
By Lew
#123595
Sidla wrote:
Diffusionuk wrote:David Blaine can shove his box up his arse as far as I'm concerned!

Would it fit though?


if he can have his head up his own arse, with his ego, i'm sure that box would fit just fine
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By Sidders
#123599
Good point, but if the box fits inside him, how the hell does he manage to fit inside the box?
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By Spoon
#123649
Sidla wrote:Good point, but if the box fits inside him, how the hell does he manage to fit inside the box?

Well he IS a magician after all.
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By Adam
#123651
BROWN'S GUN STUNT 'FAKED'

Derren Brown's Russian roulette stunt backfired on him after police confirmed on Tuesday that the bullet loaded into his gun was a blank.

Three million viewers watched Brown fire a gun, said to contain a live bullet, at his temple on Sunday night.

But police in Jersey, where the stunt took place, said it was a fake.

"There was no live ammunition involved and at no time was anyone at risk," said Lenny Harper, Detective Chief Officer for the States of Jersey police.

"A prop company brought a number of props to the island and they included a quantity of blank ammunition.

"There is absolutely no way that the State of Jersey police would allow anybody to put themselves at risk and shoot themselves dead."

He added: "This programme was made by a TV company very experienced in pyrotechnics, in making smoke and bullet holes appear. It was no different to film which uses special effects.

"This was just an illusion - the question of whether it was in dubious taste is another matter."

Brown had claimed the stunt needed to be filmed at a secret foreign location to bypass Britain's strict gun laws - but the laws in Jersey are just as strict.

Channel 4 would only say: "In making and broadcasting this programme, Channel 4 was very mindful of its responsibility to ensure the safety of all involved, and liaised with the Jersey police in advance of filming there to ensure that no offences were committed."

A spokesman for Brown declined to comment but said if the illusionist had fired a blank round into his head "he would have died anyway".

During Sunday night's show, a hand-picked volunteer appeared to load a live bullet into the Smith and Wesson gun.

Brown, 32, claimed he could predict which chamber held the bullet.

He fired the fifth towards a sandbag and it apparently went off. The cameras then showed a hole which had appeared in the bag.

Last Updated: 14:58 UK, Tuesday October 07, 2003
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By Spoon
#123653
Well he IS an illusionist after all.
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By Sidders
#123659
Adam wrote:He fired the fifth towards a sandbag and it apparently went off. The cameras then showed a hole which had appeared in the bag.

I wouldn't trust that source cos they can't even get their info right.

Good to know, thanks!