[Adam]

'Snoopers' charter' becomes law

The 'snoopers' charter' that will see every phone call made, website visited and email sent monitored by the government officially became law on Thursday.

Despite claims from legal authorities that the Order contravenes the European Convention on human rights, the Order will now oblige all communication service providers to keep records of who their customers phoned, where from, who and when they emailed and what websites they visited for 12 months.

Scary.

Discuss.

[Sidders]

As if they'll monitor everything. They can gladly monitor my communications, they'd probably die of boredom. Will serve the * right.

[Mr Dion]

they wont have the resources to monitor it all.and who is payin for this??

[7]

the taxi payers!

[MK Chris]

Does that mean when I stump up £20 to the cab driver on the way home it goes towards this bollocks?

As far as I am concerned I thought your ISP had to keep records of emails sent and web pages visited for seven years by law anyway, but I could be wrong.

There will be underground ways of avoiding it anyway and people will be tempted to go for them.

[Dopey]

yeah encryption, and boy do the government hate encryption.

[David]

As far as I am concerned I thought your ISP had to keep records of emails sent and web pages visited for seven years by law anyway, but I could be wrong.

I dont know about emails, but I dont think ISPS keep a copy of websites visited. Someone I spoke to who works for an ISP said *they* dont keep copies of URLS visited.

[Sidders]

They potentially could though.

[Dopey]

I think they do if you are visiting a website you dont know the IP address of otherwise it's just randome packets of information

[kendra k]

psh...

scary is living in america with the "patriot act".

[Ahh_Pathetic]

i'd love to be arrested just for saying "gun" in an airport though. start collecting comedy convictions.

[coct]

Whats this act actually called?

[kendra k]

you guys can't have the "pratriot act," as you lost all your patriotism in 1776.

[Adam]

Whats this act actually called?

It is part of the Anti-Terrorism, Crime & Security Act.

[Sheep]

they're whatching us? oh feck
why? what have we done?

[Lew]

they arent watching us.
they cant watch us.

it is simply not possible

[Sheep]

so what brought this on?

[Mcqueen_]

The first post is right. Do a search on it and theres more details.

It been implemented is a different thing though. ISPs don't want to pay what it will cost to do and government only are providing a small amount so it'll be a while before it comes into practice. ISPs don't want to protest against it either as they want to be seen as making the interent safer, but there are problem as it goes against some privacy things.

Ut's not that bigger deal yet anyway, if it's only a log of what you've been on, it's not as if they trawl through everyones log or someone is sat watching what you are seeing, it's just there incase it's ever needed.

[Lew]

the government can say they can do this but realistically it can not be possible

the threat is often more powerful than the actions themselves i think

[Sidders]

Realistically it is possible.

[Adam]

No it is possible. Clearly there are things you are not aware of. GCHQ currently do something similar on a military scale.

[Sidders]

Yeah, I've got a mate who works for them. Not that he's told me though, he's not allowed to.

[Adam]

Yeah, I've got a mate who works for them. Not that he's told me though, he's not allowed to.

Posting it on here won't help.

[Sidders]

He really didn't tell me. As I said, he's not allowed to.

[Ahh_Pathetic]

you guys can't have the "pratriot act," as you lost all your patriotism in 1776.

ah see you mis-informed americans again. i'll have you know our patriotism was found in 1965 by pickles the dog. hes a hero that dog.