[Yudster]

I'll take you with me, and dump you in the Ocean (ha ha!!).

In Nepal? Which ocean would that be??

[Munki Bhoy]

Commuting for over two hours each way. I am knucking fackered. I'll be glad when this secondment is over. Three weeks from today.

[foot-loose]

Wheres you commuting to?

[Ezza]

One of my friends. I'm fairly sure I'll have ranted about her before, but she's pissed me off this week. She's constantly asking whats going on in my life, and wants to know everything. She asked me who I've slept with this year, and all that sort of thing, wants to know who my friends are, and today was implying how I'm lazy and need to get a job. I know for well I could do with a job, but as I'm going to uni soon (hopefully), the chances of finding an employer who wants someone who can only work for around 3 weeks is highly unlikely. She's just pissing me off.

[MK Chris]

Oh no, god forbid that your friends should be interested in your life!

[Munki Bhoy]

Wheres you commuting to?

Fife. At rush hour times.

[catherine]

12 hour shifts, i'm * shattered and don't all pop up and tell me how you work a thousand hours a week and still have enough energy to have a wank and a pint because that will just piss me off even more.

Ezza if you join a agency they will get you work for 3 weeks.

[MK Chris]

If you're not used to working that long, it will knacker you out.

The only way to get round it is to do 12 hour shifts all the time.

[catherine]

* off.

[Munki Bhoy]

I worked out that I'm working 8 hours a day, driving for 4 hours a day, sleeping for 8 hours a day... and I'm too bloody knackered to do anything but sit in front of the telly and eat my dinner for the other 4 hours. At least I've got Sky+.

[foot-loose]

Wheres you commuting to?

Fife. At rush hour times.

Oh. Sod that.

The M8 at rush hour is a horrible place to be. The thought of having to get from Glasgow to Edinburgh at that time of day used to fill me with dread.

[Munki Bhoy]

The M8 just isn't wide enough to do the job it's supposed to do. With only two lanes each way for most of it, every time one truck pulls out to overtake another (which happens all the time) every other car in the outside lane has to slow down. That tails back in such a way that you spend all your time going from 70 to 40 to 70 to 40 to 70 etc. If there were three lanes each way, the third lane couldn't be used by the slower lorries and everyone would get to where they are going without too much bother.

Of course, that won't happen. They still can't finish the A8 to M8 upgrade! And environmentalists would hate it anyway.

But yeah, at rush hour it's probably the worst motorway I've been on. Even when I used to travel up from England on a Friday night, the M6 was at least very slow moving in all lanes. But then it has the three lanes each way. But the M8 is really stressful.

[foot-loose]

It doesn't help that there are so many folk from Edinburgh using it as well. Whoever thought they could cope with driving licenses should be shot...

[Munki Bhoy]

It's fine, if they keep up the roadworks through there as they put in the tramlines they soon won't be able to drive out of their wee city and annoy the rest of us.

[foot-loose]

I would love to know who thought that trams were a good idea for a modern city centre. What can they do that busses cant?

[Bruvva]

I would love to know who thought that trams were a good idea for a modern city centre. What can they do that busses cant?

Carry more people, cause less congestion and don't belch out fumes. Other than that, nothing.

[Munki Bhoy]

I don't see why they couldn't just use Trolley Buses. No need to dig up the road that way.

[Yudster]

Trams are scary. Driving in Sheffield dodging the trams frightens the life out of me.

[foot-loose]

I would love to know who thought that trams were a good idea for a modern city centre. What can they do that busses cant?

Carry more people, cause less congestion and don't belch out fumes. Other than that, nothing.

I can see the environmental benefit, but other than that - how many more people? And how do they cause less congestion?

[Ezza]

I've just been told that I sound just like Rachel.

[catherine]

i doubt it, the Coventry accent sounds * all like how Rachel sounds.

[Ezza]

I thought as much. Though it makes a change to be told I do have an accent.

[kendra k]

I would love to know who thought that trams were a good idea for a modern city centre. What can they do that busses cant?

Carry more people, cause less congestion and don't belch out fumes. Other than that, nothing.

I can see the environmental benefit, but other than that - how many more people? And how do they cause less congestion?

You really have to ask that?
1- If more people ride the trams, than that means less people driving on the roads. Voila! Less congestion.
2- Trams usually have some dedicated infrastructure which isn't entirely reliant on the roads, which means their schedules are less dependant on traffic. This means that traffic jams won't mess up the headways, as frequently happens with buses. This is why the idea of making dedicated bus lanes and signal priority- Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)- is sort of a quick and dirty way to improve transit without new infrastructure.

Annoying me? Life.

[S4B]

Get the tram then and don't drive then you won't need to dodge anything.

[Sunny So Cal]

The M8 just isn't wide enough to do the job it's supposed to do. With only two lanes each way for most of it, every time one truck pulls out to overtake another (which happens all the time) every other car in the outside lane has to slow down. That tails back in such a way that you spend all your time going from 70 to 40 to 70 to 40 to 70 etc. If there were three lanes each way, the third lane couldn't be used by the slower lorries and everyone would get to where they are going without too much bother.

Having been hit by a lorry on the M8 during rush hour, I wholeheartedly agree. Everytime I've ever driven on it, even years apart, there's roadworks going on and yet they're not making any progress. I'd rather drive the M25 down south than the M8 and that's saying something.