[dolly]

ok good. i wouldnt put diesel in it - too poor!

[dolly]

IVE GOT A GOLD STAR! YAYYYY

[ladbroke]

If you have a car that takes unleaded, you can use either normal unleaded, premium unleaded or a mixture of the two.

Just don't put diesel in it.

This I've done, and I always used to think how stupid people were who did it until one day..............Thankfully I realised before I started the engine, but it still cost me £100 to get the tank drained, and £50 for the cost of the fuel which was ruined. My only defence is that my girlfriends car is diesel and mine petrol. I still felt like a tit.

[catherine]

It's like buying Heinz or Tesco baked beans - cover the label up and no one can tell the difference.

I can tell the difference, shops own brand beans taste like shit. I've had this discussion with Yudster.

[ladbroke]

Heinz all the way, there are no other beans. The rest do indeed taste shit!

[MK Chris]

It's like buying Heinz or Tesco baked beans - cover the label up and no one can tell the difference.

I can tell the difference, shops own brand beans taste like shit. I've had this discussion with Yudster.

I don't believe you.

[catherine]

The only beans that don't taste like shit are Heinz and weightwatchers which are also made by Heinz. The rest need butter in to give it a nice taste.

[MK Chris]

Heinz are probably likely to make a lot of the own brand beans for the supermarkets as well, you know.

[catherine]

It's not the same, they are skimpy with the ingredients knowing it will be a cheap brand. Heinz has more salt and sugar and tastes better.

[ladbroke]

Own brand ones are very runny, and have a terrible sweet taste to them.

[Yudster]

I have a recipe to make my own, I'm going to give it a try.

[MK Chris]

My mum did that a couple of months ago, it was quite nice.

[dimtimjim]

Not read whole thread as too many pages, so sorry if i'm repeating anyone, but the simple solution to the topic in hand is....

LPG conversion. http://www.lpgconversionsltd.co.uk/

I enjoy chasing Porches up the Motorway safe in the knowledge i'm paying 52p a litre to re-fill.

Admitedly, most of you probably won't do my anual mileage, but the costs of a conversion shouldn't take too long to recoup if you think every tank of fuel afterwards will be half price. Simple sums for your situation. I paid my conversion back comfortably within 6 months......

[MK Chris]

I'm actually driving a lot less now that I'm walking into work, so I think that would take me at least a few years to pay off.

[ladbroke]

Not read whole thread as too many pages, so sorry if i'm repeating anyone, but the simple solution to the topic in hand is....

LPG conversion. http://www.lpgconversionsltd.co.uk/

I enjoy chasing Porches up the Motorway safe in the knowledge i'm paying 52p a litre to re-fill.

Admitedly, most of you probably won't do my anual mileage, but the costs of a conversion shouldn't take too long to recoup if you think every tank of fuel afterwards will be half price. Simple sums for your situation. I paid my conversion back comfortably within 6 months......

I believe that Government support for this has been withdrawn, so recouping the initial cost may take some time longer. In fact now there is no support I can see LPG dying on it's arse, especially when you consider it may cost half as much but your MPG is almost cut in half too, negating the saving. Not all cars are suitable for conversion either.

[Yudster]

I used to run the fleet vehicles when i was working, and they were all LPG - and I would never willingly have or drive an LPG vehicle after having to deal with those. It might only cost 52p a litre, but you use it up at an alarming rate, and the fillling stations selling it are pretty few and far between in most areas. You might be spending less to fill your tank but you'll be doing an awful lot more often. You get compromised performance (which wouldn't be that much of an issue for me), much higher servicing costs (which would) and, as dimjimtimflimbimflimbimpftangpftangolebiscuitbarrel said, the governement has withdrawn support for the conversions and filling stations which previously sold it are no longer doing so - it never took off in the first place and now it's on its way out.

Roll on hydrogen fuelled cars.

[Andy B]

Roll on fusion reactor cars, like the upgrade the Delorian got at the end of Back To The Future. Or anti matter powered cars for that matter (no pun intended).

Tis the bloody 21st century, where are the flying cars and meals in pill form we were all promised eh?

[S4B]

Oh great book out for you Mr Andy! http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesw ... ku=6217974

Other websites are available but are not - in my opinion - as good!

[Andy B]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_C-onaCu0][/youtube]

Not quite the Tomorrow's World I was looking for........

[S4B]

Mind you maybe You Tube has you pegged as the Anti-Christ!

[Andy B]

Shhhhhhhhh I keeping that under wraps until i'm 34......

[S4B]

You mean you're younger than that?!

[MK Chris]

meals in pill form

I remember that invention (although possibly only from nostalgic TV programmes) and I have to say that I can think of nothing worse. Eating (although not to excess) frankly makes me happy; I enjoy it. If I were to replace my meals with a pill, that would be shit.

[dimtimjim]

[quote="Yudster"]I used to run the fleet vehicles when i was working, and they were all LPG - and I would never willingly have or drive an LPG vehicle after having to deal with those. It might only cost 52p a litre, but you use it up at an alarming rate, and the fillling stations selling it are pretty few and far between in most areas. You might be spending less to fill your tank but you'll be doing an awful lot more often. You get compromised performance (which wouldn't be that much of an issue for me), much higher servicing costs (which would) and, as dimjimtimflimbimflimbimpftangpftangolebiscuitbarrel said, the governement has withdrawn support for the conversions and filling stations which previously sold it are no longer doing so - it never took off in the first place and now it's on its way out. [quote]


Not so.... More and more LPG stations are opening all the time (3 have had pumps converted - just in my local area - over last 4 months). It is not a dead option. Yes, you may not get the government to pay half the conversion costs, but for higher mileage drivers it still makes sense. Tax on LPG is frozen until Sept 2010, but even once reviewed, given that LPG is the green option - and the hard hitting 'motorists are polluting scum' campaign we have at present, they can't suddenly bring it to a par with petrol. Plus you get a 10% road tax relief with a converted car.

Plus Yuds, I have many years experience in transport management myself, and you cannot compare running costs of fleet vehicles with personal vehicles. No matter what they tell you, an employed driver does not drive with MPG in mind.... My tank empties quickly if I leave my right foot welded to the floor....

And as to the comments above about halving your MPG. Please check your facts, sir. Converting a petrol engine to run on LPG you will loose between 2-10% efficiency. Offset that with nearly half price fuel and although your MPG will go down your MP£ will be nearly doubled. Direct Port Injection Petrol and Diesel LPG technology is less than 12 months away - which will offer even better returns.

Servicing costs? Yeah your right, an LPG system does need a seperate service over and above the normal maintenance, but at approx £50-100 every 12,000 miles?!?! Negligable cost. Plus go to a decent installer and it'll come with warrenty.

Reliability? LPG technology is still under constant development (we in UK are so far behind rest of europe on LPG - nealy 10% of cars in Italy are LPG) and buying a new kit now should have minimal reliability issues - no more so than any brand new car. Go with a reputable manufacturer (BRC) and installer and enjoy.

I agree, its not for everyone, but any more than 12,000 per year and its gotta be worth it. I personally do 50,000+ miles per year, hence save myself best part of £3000 per year, and thats two almighty holidays - for free - every year. Each to their own.

[Boboff]

But it does depend on the size of the Car.
I found a 1.2ltr car good enough for doing 50k a year miles, and no LPG nonsense to worry about. You find most of the LPG conversions of bigger cars, flasher big willy waving ones.