[chrysostom]

pathological love of having a birthday.

i had separate 3 birthday celebrations in the space of a week this year (family, friends, gf)

[jocky85]

Stretching the celebrations to a week if I possibly can!

Why?

why not?
Same as andy says - family, work friends, friends.

[jocky85]

Stretching the celebrations to a week if I possibly can!

Why?

why not?
Same as andy says - family, work friends, friends.

[Yudster]

Baby Yudster got revenge!

[yummytummy]

1 week till holiday to America can't wait

[SAV1OUR]

The fans outside LA Courtoom.

Also, this from 2 years ago:

[chrysostom]

The fans outside the courtroom are a disgrace. A man has died, to want vengeance for his death is outdated.

[Yudster]

The whole thing is a farce. The doctor is being used as a scapegoat and blamed for a situation he had no control over. He may have administered what turned out to be the fatal dose, but until any of his other patients start making complaints about him - or turning up in comas - I won't believe he is a danger to anyone. Can you imagine the kind of pressure and tensions which must have been involved in being the man responsible for medicating Michael Jackson? Poor bloke, he was never going to get that one right.

I feel a lot more sorry for the doctor than I do for the grieving sisters and brothers and parents,they are using him to deflect attention from their own failure to look after their child and sibling when he was in need. The Jackson family have shown their true colours (oh the irony...) through this.

[DevilsDuck]

I think the problem is propofol should not have been administered...but he did kill a peado!

[Nicola_Red]

The doctor is being...blamed for a situation he had no control over..

I really don't agree with that. Doctors swear an oath and under that he should have refused to give MJ such powerful, dangerous sedatives. I'm sure it must have been difficult to say no to someone so rich and important, but people trust doctors to care for their patients, and he didn't do that.

[Ilovematt]

The fans outside the courtroom are a disgrace. A man has died, to want vengeance for his death is outdated.

Agree.

My hope is that there are MJ fans in prison to let him know how they feel!

[Ilovematt]

I think the problem is propofol should not have been administered...but he did kill a peado!

Have you written proof for your Peado comment to say that ?

[MK Chris]

The doctor is being...blamed for a situation he had no control over..

I really don't agree with that. Doctors swear an oath and under that he should have refused to give MJ such powerful, dangerous sedatives. I'm sure it must have been difficult to say no to someone so rich and important, but people trust doctors to care for their patients, and he didn't do that.

I agree with Yudster - I mean they do swear an oath, but you can probably never know the kind of pressure he was under unless you've been there in the same situation.

The fans outside the courtroom are a disgrace. A man has died, to want vengeance for his death is outdated.

Agree.

My hope is that there are MJ fans in prison to let him know how they feel!

I really really hope that's a typo there.

I think the problem is propofol should not have been administered...but he did kill a peado!

Have you written proof for your Peado comment to say that ?

It will never be proven either way, but he admitted sleeping in a bed with other people's kids - whatever way you try and spin it, that is wrong.

[chrysostom]

It will never be proven either way, but he admitted sleeping in a bed with other people's kids - whatever way you try and spin it, that is wrong.

In a previous relationship we'd pretty much grown up with her younger cousin (about 6 when we got together) and she would crawl into bed with us in the early morning to watch TV while we slept, her dad wasn't on the scene, and I felt quite parental to her.

My ex was related to her, but I wasn't - does that put me at fault?

(not a direct challenge to your point, I'm just wondering)

[Boboff]

No as you had another adult in bed with you. On your own, it would open you up to a difficult position to defend.

It's a daft world, I won't have my 11 year old have sleep overs when my wife is on nights, not for any other reason that I would feel uncomfortable if anything of a personal naure happened to daughters friend when I was in charge. Daughter is fine, other, not. Women do that stuff better anyway.

[MK Chris]

What he said.

[DevilsDuck]

I think the problem is propofol should not have been administered...but he did kill a peado!

Have you written proof for your Peado comment to say that ?

As has been said, we will never have proof...but he did pay a teenage boy £30m+ to keep him quiet...I think that's enough proof in my mind

[Boboff]

It's proof his management didn't want what happened to be made public, not that he wanked off McCawley Culkin.

[Ilovematt]

I think the problem is propofol should not have been administered...but he did kill a peado!

Have you written proof for your Peado comment to say that ?

As has been said, we will never have proof...but he did pay a teenage boy £30m+ to keep him quiet...I think that's enough proof in my mind

Michael Jackson told you this did he?

I find it weird that people will believe this sort of crap.

No one will ever know what went on in his life. To class someone as a peado with no proof is unacceptable!

[Yudster]

The money paid to stop the lad and his family talking isn't speculation, that's fact. Not sure what it proves, but its obvious what it suggests.

[bmstinton93]

The whole thing is a farce. The doctor is being used as a scapegoat and blamed for a situation he had no control over. He may have administered what turned out to be the fatal dose, but until any of his other patients start making complaints about him - or turning up in comas - I won't believe he is a danger to anyone. Can you imagine the kind of pressure and tensions which must have been involved in being the man responsible for medicating Michael Jackson? Poor bloke, he was never going to get that one right.

I feel a lot more sorry for the doctor than I do for the grieving sisters and brothers and parents,they are using him to deflect attention from their own failure to look after their child and sibling when he was in need. The Jackson family have shown their true colours (oh the irony...) through this.

Oh god. I'm in 2 minds about this. I completely agree with everything you said there and obviously he was under so much pressure but also by the letter of the law strictly speaking he has committed involuntary manslaughter, so the jury were perhaps correct so maybe he should get a year or 2 in prison. But considering the person he was in charge of was one of the most famous people in the world and was obviously a complete mess the pressure he would have been under must have been immense and also the last 2 years of his life must have already been hell and he has most likely lost his whole career so I don't think he deserves prison on top of that. Apparently he has been placed on suicide watch as well now, which is worrying.

[SAV1OUR]

What utter bollocks.

The poor doctor on a fortune peddling over the counter drugs must be feeling awwwful..whilst on the phone to various lovers that fateful day, perhaps. Yes, Jacko was single-minded as are most addicts I imagine - they think they are the master of their own destiny when really they should be on a shrink's ward, not being given stuff that should've been administered away from home. As for the family well, I can imagine it being one big nightmare, theres only so much they can do when the man has barricaded himself off from reality, trying to give off the impression he's in control with some dazzling concerts lined up. But at the heart of this was that great lummox of a doctor getting paid a fortune "yes Michael, anything you want". The guy wasn't well, and he had a doctor who has now become the evil face of the showbiz underworld awash with his seedy like.

[Boboff]

Absolutely Savior,
he is a doctor, and owed MJ a duty of care. He was skint, was on £100k a month, and talked of £2 million just for signing on! MJ was under immence pressure with the O2 dates coming, and he kept peddling the drugs affraid he would get kicked out if he said no, which ethically he should have.

So I say he got about 10% of what he should have got coming to him, if ANY of us had been that negligent at work we would be in allot more trouble. A 17 year old in the UK who bought a looted phone will get longer in prison than him anyway!

[Yudster]

See, I don't disagree with any of that either. Except for the "poor family it must have been a nightmare for them" - yes, I expect it was, but certainly in the case of the parents, they are ultimately to blame for the whole situation so they can do one.

Gah. I do feel sorry for the doctor but yes, Boboff is right, he had a professional duty of care and he should have behaved ethically and said no. I still think he is carrying a LOT of people's cans for them though.

[Boboff]

I never liked his music or him, in some ways he died like he lived, like a bad Hollywood film.

It's almost as staged as X factor!