[Sam]

Actually Lewis, I don't want him to shut up. I'm interested how anyone could form such an hipocritical, biased and discrimatory viewe of things. People who can be so unbeliveable unfair and unjust amaze me, and I want to see what tim's arguement is and continues to be, as he obviously feels he is right. Maybe I'll learn something.

you judge people by their actions. it's a very simple concept. people who smoke perform a stupid action many times a day, this makes them stupid. this is not unfair, it is judging people by their actions. if you pick your nose, you are disgusting, if you swear you are rude, if you smoke you are disgusting, rude and stupid.

But all those things are just biased opinions. I don't find it rude if people swear around me. There is no fact in your point, whereas they is in ours. Surely you can see this?

[Morals]

timb is incapable of reasoned discussion....

[Lew]

i, stevo and morals (and possibly sidla) do not appreciate being called disgusting rude and stupid.

can't you see that? its not just about whether you are right or not (which your not - FACT) your being nasty to the smokers on this board, which make you disgustingly rude and stupid to me

[Sidders]

i have proved my point many times that smoking is a stupid thing to do, that makes people who smoke stupid. you have yet to prove why people who smoke aren't stupid.

and wow threats of physical violence, you must be a great great person. i'm sure all your little friends think you're well hard.

Just because you do stupid things it doesn't make you stupid, cretin.

Tell me honestly that you've not done anything stupid in the past week.

Bloody hell, I'm struggling to keep up with this thread tonight.

smoking isn't one stupid thing, it is many stupid things many times a day.

BUT THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDICTED YOU CRETIN!!!!

[timb]

Actually Lewis, I don't want him to shut up. I'm interested how anyone could form such an hipocritical, biased and discrimatory viewe of things. People who can be so unbeliveable unfair and unjust amaze me, and I want to see what tim's arguement is and continues to be, as he obviously feels he is right. Maybe I'll learn something.

you judge people by their actions. it's a very simple concept. people who smoke perform a stupid action many times a day, this makes them stupid. this is not unfair, it is judging people by their actions. if you pick your nose, you are disgusting, if you swear you are rude, if you smoke you are disgusting, rude and stupid.

But all those things are just biased opinions. I don't find it rude if people swear around me. There is no fact in your point, whereas they is in ours. Surely you can see this?

i fail to see a fact in any of your points. the fact is smoking is a stupid thing to do.

[timb]

i have proved my point many times that smoking is a stupid thing to do, that makes people who smoke stupid. you have yet to prove why people who smoke aren't stupid.

and wow threats of physical violence, you must be a great great person. i'm sure all your little friends think you're well hard.

Just because you do stupid things it doesn't make you stupid, cretin.

Tell me honestly that you've not done anything stupid in the past week.

Bloody hell, I'm struggling to keep up with this thread tonight.

smoking isn't one stupid thing, it is many stupid things many times a day.

BUT THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDICTED YOU CRETIN!!!!

no they do it because they don't want to stop

[Sidders]

timb is incapable of reasoned discussion....

Agreed. In fact, I give up. It's obvious he's not going to change his pathetic opinions.

[Nablo.]

It isn't a fact at all it's your opinion

[Lew]

but you are saying it makes the person who does it stupid so you are wrong

[Sidders]

i have proved my point many times that smoking is a stupid thing to do, that makes people who smoke stupid. you have yet to prove why people who smoke aren't stupid.

and wow threats of physical violence, you must be a great great person. i'm sure all your little friends think you're well hard.

Just because you do stupid things it doesn't make you stupid, cretin.

Tell me honestly that you've not done anything stupid in the past week.

Bloody hell, I'm struggling to keep up with this thread tonight.

smoking isn't one stupid thing, it is many stupid things many times a day.

BUT THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDICTED YOU CRETIN!!!!

no they do it because they don't want to stop

Have you ever been addicted to anything? No? Then shut up because you don't know what you're talking about.

[timb]

i, stevo and morals (and possibly sidla) do not appreciate being called disgusting rude and stupid.

can't you see that? its not just about whether you are right or not (which your not - FACT) your being nasty to the smokers on this board, which make you disgustingly rude and stupid to me

so this is about being nasty is it? i see, funny coz i cant count on one 10 digit calculator the amount of times i've been insulted in this thread

[Lew]

i suppose you wouldnt think for one second you might have brought that on yourself? you get what you give.......d!ckhead

[Nablo.]

Is it any wonder people insult you when you have insulted people. Of course you are the one who is going to be insulted the most as your the one who has this view that everyone is arguing against.

[timb]

timb is incapable of reasoned discussion....

Agreed. In fact, I give up. It's obvious he's not going to change his pathetic opinions.

pathetic thats won me over

no wait

it hasn't

because you haven't give even a single valid point

so take your insults elsewhere

[Lew]

EVERYONE STOP POSTING ON THIS THREAD NOW PLEASE TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - THANK YOU

[Sam]

Timb, in your OPINION smokers are stupid. You'll will notice I have refrained from calling you a tw@t or anything similar. This is because thats a OPINION of mine, based on your FACT biased and discrimatory views. You cannot state smokers are stupid, because quite simply you haven't got FACTUAL evidence to back you up. Its just an OPINION, which is wrong as its discriminating against a group of people which is unfair, FACT.

[timb]

Timb, in your OPINION smokers are stupid. You'll will notice I have refrained from calling you a *beep*t or anything similar. This is because thats a OPINION of mine, based on your FACT biased and discrimatory views. You cannot state smokers are stupid, because quite simply you haven't got FACTUAL evidence to back you up. Its just an OPINION, which is wrong as its discriminating against a group of people which is unfair, FACT.

did i ever say it was anything more than my opinion? no what i said was that i use f'ags as a way to judge stupid people from the rest of us. it is not discriminating because it is just my opinion, everyone makes judgements whether they care to or not. if i was to not offer someone a job because they smoked then that would be discriminatory. so that clearly isnt a FACT as you put it. what is a fact is that noone has given a good reason of any kind to smoke, what also is a fact is that smoking kills people, so smoking isn't a good idea is a fact, thus people who smoke are stupid. this is extremely simple logic to follow.

[Nablo.]

Ok so them smoking is a stupid action but this stupid action in no way effects there intelligence or makes them any less of a person.

[Gigglyboots]

End of story. You lose Timb.

[timb]

but doing stupid things makes you thick end of story i win

[Lew]

this thread has no winners. i move that we all shut up

[Nablo.]

Of course when you do an IQ test you have questions like A) Do you smoke B) Do you drink C) Do you hit your self with shovels is always a key question to determine you intelligence.

[Sam]

So you don't find people who are homophobic discrimatory? That they are judging you on one aspect of yourself, rather than the entire person that you are. Smoking is a stupid thing to do, yes, I think most would agree. But you cannot look at that and say 'well that person is then stupid'. I struggle with maths, does that make me stupid full stop, despite the fact that I do well in English and various other things? No, its just one part of me, it doesn't represent who I am. You could say I chose to be bad at maths, because if I put all my time and effort into it I could do better, but I don't have that sort of motovational energy. Same as a smoker doesn't have the motavational energy to say 'no' in the first place, and then give up after.

[Bridgie]

please go to the polls forum

[timb]

no, i don't care about homophobes, they can live their lives and i can live mine. unless like i said it's a job interview or something.

and i hardly think not putting your effort into maths is the same as repeatedly smoking fa'gs which can kill you