[Stevo_trash]

http://media.guardian.co.uk/radio/story ... 59,00.html

It appears Radio 1 is losing further listeners. Why is this? What shows do you dislike? Opinions on music selection?

Personally I think radio 1 has been blinded by the whole 'new music' label. Recruiting far too many 'specialist' dj's and too many bland 'fill-ins'. The most popular shows (minus the breakfast slot factor) is mark and lard and moyles. Perhaps the reason why these to shows are successfull is that they're not that much different to the DLT generation of broadcasters. Personality radio in modern day context. Whilst some of the specialist shows have great formats (ie mary anne hobbs rock show) one has to question the audience figures that some specialist shows could possibly acheive. Whilst in some place like london, the ethnic mix is varied..this is not the case in all cities.

My half arsed solution is to recruit more personality jocks (perhaps get the cream of new stand up comics to do a once weekly show), play some slightly older music as opposed to some of the bilge given time on the airwaves, fire the likes of emma b, jabrone, KC,etc who could do well on commercial stations but shouldn't be working for radio 1 and merge some of the specialist shows.

DJ's IN

Moyles
Mark and Lard
Colin Murray
Edith Bowman
Christian O Connel
Scott Mills

DJ's OUT

Jo Whiley
Sanjeev and Friction
Sara Cox
Dave Pearce
Pete Tong
etc


How about a series of programmes which showcase some of the student, hospital and commercial shows on late at night of course. An ideal opportunity to test and evaluate the next generation of broadcasters.

[timb]

how about not playing exactly the same music over and over again all day. also get rid of the shoddy 'urban' crap. i'm a fan of some 'urban' music but i don't want to listen to some idiot talking 'gangsta' on the radio. also get rid of JJ, spoony and anyone else who plays that sort of crap. this post may seem like a massive contradiction, but i am aware of it and life is full of them

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

Whilst some of the specialist shows have great formats (ie mary anne hobbs rock show) one has to question the audience figures that some specialist shows could possibly acheive. Whilst in some place like london, the ethnic mix is varied..this is not the case in all cities.

to be honest i agree with this radio 1 outside of the daytime isnt accessable to people. some of the specialist shows seem to almost promote exclusion of certain type of people from listening to the shows. they have all these bloody channels at the bbc now yet still they seem intent on radio 1 being a mix of every style under the sun. radio 2 is much more consistent an benefits from it,

[coct]

But surely the point of the BBC is specialism, it is catering for those that are not catered for on commercial radio. It should not matter that much about listening figures, as long as they aren't doing a 3 hour session at kevins house while he plays 3 notes on his clarinet over and over again which not even his mum would listen to then I think it's good.

The daytime stuff, should all be personality based though, the playlist is right...though I haven't heard it for ages. Pop sh*t is actually top sometimes, don't discriminate because of genre, dicriminate because of quality. And maybe they should have a no repeat workday (though don't call it that) as people listen through the erm, working day. But after about half 5 repeat as you like innit.

Kill Dave Pearce.

[timb]

But surely the point of the BBC is specialism, it is catering for those that are not catered for on commercial radio

why? it's not some community outreach radio. most of the people who pay their license fee don't want to hear some buddist monk playing the tamborine

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

century fm is on they way up dont ya know. biggest local radio station outside of london h'apparantly. good to see radio 1s over 4 audience is up.

[Ickle Angel]

But surely the point of the BBC is specialism, it is catering for those that are not catered for on commercial radio

why? it's not some community outreach radio. most of the people who pay their license fee don't want to hear some buddist monk playing the tamborine

lol thats quite funny. I now have an image in my head of a budhist monk playing a tamborine

[coct]

Timb what is the point in the BBC providing what commercial radio provides?

You wouldn't get a buddist monk, that is a far more Radio 3 thing.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

so the bbc should shut down anything that can be provided commercially? the bbc is there to entertain also...

[timb]

the point of the BBC is to provide quality programmming as far as i know.

[Lawrie]

How about a series of programmes which showcase some of the student, hospital and commercial shows on late at night of course. An ideal opportunity to test and evaluate the next generation of broadcasters.

You and Hoare i presume?!


Radio 1 thought they were clever having these specialist shows however they do appeal to a small percentage of people.....Westwood and Dreem Team and people like that dont really appeal to many people in Leeds...most people associate Westwood with his CDs......move them to 1extra

Moyles and M+L appeal to many due to their style of presenting and Moyles is like any person you could meet on the street

Radio 1 need to think what is right for the people......

Guitar music is massive at moment..where are the shows to showcase it?

[Stevo_trash]

loz, whilst i agree that the bbc has a duty to cater for specialist (needs..oops) audiences...it also has to compete against commercial companies to proove its viability.

I agree that the night time slots should be used to programme specialist formats, why limit this to dance/bangra/world (yawn) music. How about a weekly comedy set, featuring new comedians inter cut with taped and live music..hosted by mark radcliffe for example.

Given that the figures are slipping, they really need to try out new ideas, faces and formats. Yes daytime should be the lair of personality jocks, but make sure their worthy of bbc radio billing.

[Jonny Hoare]

On Bank Holiday Monday it was apparent - radio is in dissarray....
Coxy's new stand ins colin and edith sounded good and confident-the banter is genuine unlike the forced stuff with her "posse"
Jo Whiley is DULL. SHe was Little Ern to Lamacq's Eric Morcumbe. She only likes percieved to be cool.
Mark and Lard hate their playlist- a job at 6 music or waiting for wogamn to call it a day causing a radio 2 reshuffle walker to breakfast allinson to drive freeing up 10 30
Dave Pearce- p[robably the weakest dance dj. Dance Anthems was good. it's a real shame because pearce was initally a comedy genius.

Here's Hoare's RAdio 1 line up

7am Colin and Edith
10am Zane Lowe
1pm Scott Mills
3pm Moyles
6pm Wes (the boy has talent)
8pm MArk and Lard

[Sidders]

The worst mistake Radio 1 has ever made is axe Mayo and give Whiley, Cox and Moyles 3 hour slots. Whilst his show used to be the same format everyday, it always provided entertainment and not playlist overkill like we have now. The Mystery years provided an hour of relief from the playlist and at the same time had everyone guessing the year. I remember many an enjoyable hour at work competing with my colleagues to guess what the year was. Then there was the National Anthems slot which provided yet more enjoyment and playlist-relief.

BRING BACK MAYO!!!

[~JACQUI~]

Simon Mayo? Didnt he host the Lottery @ one point (sorry bout the@ thing, i meant at)

[Jonny Hoare]

I think mayo would have gone by now anyhow. he'll be part of the Radio 2 shakeup..... Good how he was i think he's a bit dated now..
However..give us more oldies radio 1

[David]

The worst mistake Radio 1 has ever made is axe Mayo and give Whiley, Cox and Moyles 3 hour slots. Whilst his show used to be the same format everyday, it always provided entertainment and not playlist overkill like we have now. The Mystery years provided an hour of relief from the playlist and at the same time had everyone guessing the year. I remember many an enjoyable hour at work competing with my colleagues to guess what the year was. Then there was the National Anthems slot which provided yet more enjoyment and playlist-relief.

BRING BACK MAYO!!!

I couldn't agree more. I thought Mayo was better than moyles at times.

If they were to give him a proper Radio 2 show (rather than the Album chart show), that'd be good.

[coct]

I wasn't actually saying Radio 1 didn't need to change, but it does need to provide something different. It is the only non commercial outlet for youth music for now, I know there are digital stations but until digital is the norm then it does need to cater for minorities.

[Sidders]

I couldn't agree more. I thought Mayo was better than moyles at times.

If they were to give him a proper Radio 2 show (rather than the Album chart show), that'd be good.

I agree, he was almost as good as Moyles, better on occasions.

A Radio 2 show would be good. He'd be able to go back even further with the Mystery Years.

He played my national anthems once. Thanks Si!

[Lew]

I couldn't agree more. I thought Mayo was better than moyles at times.

If they were to give him a proper Radio 2 show (rather than the Album chart show), that'd be good.

I agree, he was almost as good as Moyles, better on occasions.

A Radio 2 show would be good. He'd be able to go back even further with the Mystery Years.

well done sidla on quoting david and making exactly the same points as he did

[Sidders]

True, I didn't really think about it at the time.

[Uglybob]

if radio 1 is about quality programming, why the hell have they the dreem teem then, to make the other djs feel good about themselves. specialist music will not get you listeners. what will get you listeners is less dance and r n b. surely 1XTRA is ample enough for these people. I dont think ive listened to Radio 1 after 6pm for years. Wheres a comedy show? Nowhere, unless you count Dave Pearce as a DJ.

[Jonny Hoare]

Spoony is the only one with talent.

KC, Sarah HB, Vicky Marsden all awful.

Re. comedy on radio 1. I don't think there a place fir it any more. Fist of Fun, Blue Jam, the Mary Whitehouse Experience all were good. there's plenty of DJ comedy

[kendra k]

keep the comedy to radio4.

and it seems like every month people play the fantasy radio1 game here.

[Uglybob]

the posh n beardsley of moylesworld