[Yudster]

But this is the thing - I believe in the idea of evil...not in the biblical 'devil made me' sense. In the sense that people make bad choices that they are aware are bad - but decide to honour their own ideology or lusts knowing it will harm others. It seems that now it seems to be inadmissible as a trait in high profile cases.

Yes. That.

There may be mitigating factors, but it's the point which they cease to become things which aided the act to happen and start to become things which were the definite cause of the act.

Eh?

[chrysostom]

Phrased awfully.

There may be factors (emotional, physiological, social etc.) which make an individual more susceptible to committing a crime.

The problem comes then those factors are seen as the driving force behind the crime, as opposed to an aiding factor.

The solution to this problem would be a clear definition of when those factors come into play to describe the person as 'insane'.

I think i got it right that time...

[Yudster]

Got it.


Yes.

[Bonanzoid]

Steve Kean is annoying me. How is he a Premier League manager? I'm not even a Blackburn fan but the fact he's still their manager bugs me. Tit.

[DevilsDuck]

At least he hasn't got yellow boots on!

[Boboff]

If you deconstruct the arguments though, and assume society is only formed through it's rules, and it's judgements, then the fact crimes are commited are evidence of choice on an individual basis, and it is only when those choices go against the constructs of society, that in effect a crime is commited, and by the same argument whether behaviours meet standard judgements of normal behavior we could or could not actually argue that those people did not commit crime, and are sane, it is us, that are the insane criminals in the piece.......

Or not, just sayin.

[Yudster]

Anarchist. I love you Boboff.

[Wykey]

All crime is committed by the living, therefore living itself is the crime.

[Yudster]

I'm pink, therefore I'm Spam?

I think you are putting Descartes before the horse.

[Wykey]

I think they'd be pleased with the Descartian parallel - Wagner / Bolland / 2000AD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Death

[chrysostom]

i burst out laughing as Jimmy Wales' face loomed at me with the caption 'Judge Death'

[Show us your boaby]

I had the 'Jesus on a slice of toast' impersonator Brandon Harris, being all cross armed and Judge Deathian on me for my visit.

[Bonanzoid]

Listening to the show on the iPlayer, enjoyed that Flux Pavilion song, but then that T-Pain song ruined everything. Just awful.

[Boboff]

All crime is committed by the living, therefore living itself is the crime.

No living is a choice, To be or not to be........

[dimtimjim]

but then that T-Pain song ruined everything. Just awful.

Agreed. Lilly's track is lovely, his additions are stupid, at best, AutoTune pizzle at worst.

[bmstinton93]

Thirded.

[Ilovematt]

Another headache

[R94N]

Listening to the show on the iPlayer, enjoyed that Flux Pavilion song, but then that T-Pain song ruined everything. Just awful.

It's a bit crap. Seems like they were a bit too desperate for song ideas.

[bmstinton93]

I love Lily Allen and T Pain has just completely murdered a wonderful song.

[Nicola_Red]

I don't even like the Lily Allen song, so it's a bad song made even worse to me!

[Bonanzoid]

The mere fact T-Pain is considered a musician is just an insult. No talent, can't sing, heinous overuse of autotune. It's ear rape.

Also annoying me, this hangover is slaying me.

[bmstinton93]

Also annoying me, this hangover is slaying me.

Ah, I recovered by about 11.

[a-moron]

When I stop drinking for one night my hangover is gonna be a * killer. 14yrs not sober folks. Get in.

[Nicola_Red]

I don't really drink. Dulls my apathy.

[Boboff]

What drinking makes you want to Do stuff?

That would be seen as possitive?

I've been off the drink again, day 30 today! Best abstinence EVA!!!!!

I am really surprised how good I feel, it is amazing. You have also noted from my posts that it has also made me more humourous, improved my spelling, and got me twilight rude-eeees, not sex whilst watching the films you understand, but companiable sexual gratification in the period when the sun ( and the wife) goes down.

"Oh I won't let the sun, go down on me, I won't let the son go down" which is as it should be.